What criteria determine whether W8.1 fast starts.

Mooly

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I've installed W8.1 on a Dell Vostro 3750 laptop and am seeing start times in the sub 15 second region. That is the total time from hitting the power button to being online here. Wonderful.

The older Acer laptop (8 yr old 9301) that I trialled W8.1 on doesn't achieve this. In fact its start up times are similar to Vista and W7 at around 80 seconds. Why might that be ?

One bit of relevant info that might give a clue. I created a task for Defender to update at start up (with a 5 minute delay) and on the Acer it works perfectly. The Dell does not, and I suspect the reason is that the Quick Start is not classed as a full startup. Do a restart on the Dell and it works (I've modified the task on the Dell so that is sorted). But what all that seems to show is that the Acer isn't in a Quick Start mode for some reason although the Quickstart option is enabled. Both Acer and Dell followed the same install procedure, a clean install onto unallocated space. The Acer was a bit challenging to find Wi-Fi drivers that worked (an older Vista one had to be used).

Could it be a driver or non compatible BIOS causing the non operative Quick Start and as such is something that I will never get to work, or is there anything else I should check ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3750/Acer 9301
    CPU
    Intel i5/AMD Turion 64
    Memory
    4Gb/2Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel i5 internal/NVidia GEFORCE GO 6100
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    250Gb SSD and 120Gb
    Mouse
    HP Z4000
    Internet Speed
    76 down, 20 up
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
Windows 8's fast boot is a hybrid sleep mode, so it could be a sleep or hibernate issue.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win8.1.1 enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Hinze57
    CPU
    AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
    Motherboard
    gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
    Memory
    4gig ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radon hd5000 Series
    Sound Card
    onboard realtek hd
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    128gig ssd Kingston
    80gig WD 10000 rpm spinner
    Case
    micro
    Keyboard
    microsoft curve 200
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless M215
    Internet Speed
    high speed 20
    Browser
    ie 11
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    updated enterprise apr 2/14
Thanks for the link. The more I look into this and the more I suspect a driver type issue. Perhaps expecting an 8yr old laptop to handle this is to high an expectation. I've a vague recollection that a non updated install (non updated in any form and so essentially unusable) did show much faster boot times. If I'm at a loose end I might try installing the 32 bit retail copy under a generic code and see what happens.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 x64 pro and W8.1 x86
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3750/Acer 9301
    CPU
    Intel i5/AMD Turion 64
    Memory
    4Gb/2Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel i5 internal/NVidia GEFORCE GO 6100
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    250Gb SSD and 120Gb
    Mouse
    HP Z4000
    Internet Speed
    76 down, 20 up
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
you could check this tutorial on how to turn on fast boot,for what it worth my computer desnt have the option to turn on fast boot ,its just over 6 mnts old for me ,but I think the technology of the motherboard is about 2 yrs old or less .

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html

I don't use sleep or hibernation on my PC's. One tweak I do is to disable hibernation from the command prompt. This gets rid of the hyberfile.sys file and frees up space on my SSD. What I've also noticed when doing this is that the Fast Startup option disappears from the Power options menus. The S1 S3 sleep state as set in the BIOS may affect this as well.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
you could check this tutorial on how to turn on fast boot,for what it worth my computer desnt have the option to turn on fast boot ,its just over 6 mnts old for me ,but I think the technology of the motherboard is about 2 yrs old or less .

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html

I don't use sleep or hibernation on my PC's. One tweak I do is to disable hibernation from the command prompt. This gets rid of the hyberfile.sys file and frees up space on my SSD. What I've also noticed when doing this is that the Fast Startup option disappears from the Power options menus. The S1 S3 sleep state as set in the BIOS may affect this as well.

ok, thanks ,not sure if I disables hibernation yet or not will check it out
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win8.1.1 enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Hinze57
    CPU
    AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
    Motherboard
    gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
    Memory
    4gig ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radon hd5000 Series
    Sound Card
    onboard realtek hd
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    128gig ssd Kingston
    80gig WD 10000 rpm spinner
    Case
    micro
    Keyboard
    microsoft curve 200
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless M215
    Internet Speed
    high speed 20
    Browser
    ie 11
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    updated enterprise apr 2/14
you could check this tutorial on how to turn on fast boot,for what it worth my computer desnt have the option to turn on fast boot ,its just over 6 mnts old for me ,but I think the technology of the motherboard is about 2 yrs old or less .

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html

I don't use sleep or hibernation on my PC's. One tweak I do is to disable hibernation from the command prompt. This gets rid of the hyberfile.sys file and frees up space on my SSD. What I've also noticed when doing this is that the Fast Startup option disappears from the Power options menus. The S1 S3 sleep state as set in the BIOS may affect this as well.

ok, thanks ,not sure if I disables hibernation yet or not will check it out

Yeah, I don't know if its relevant to your situation or not. It's just something I noticed and decided to pass on.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
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