Will Win8 be as succesful ??

The clueless in search of the useless :)
 

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Going by the comments on this Forum, Microsoft might as well shut up shop now, nobody knows how to use Windows 8, or just plain dont want to use it.
I think we'd better all start learning Mac because I fear for the future of Microsoft. Get used to buying hugely overpriced machines and not building your own anymore. These are dark days indeed.
 

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The attitude of the desktop user and the tablet user is different. I have a feeling that Windows 8 on a tablet actually is a better experience than an iPad. If the same experience is available on phone, tablet and desktop, then Microsoft may well be onto a winner. Despite being free to the user on a 3-year contract, the OEM pays the same sum to the OS manufacturer for the license as if you had bought the phone directly. That's what makes money for the OS manufacturers. Windows wants to compete with Android and Apple iPhone, and iPad. One thing that Windows has, and iPhone and Android don't, is a hardened security model and a means of coping with threats. When your phone is totally crippled by a virus, Windows Phone might seem like a good idea.
 

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If Microsoft cant stem the tide of people going over to IOS, these people will eventually cross over to Mac. Apple is already integrating IOS into Mac to make it easier for people to migrate.
This is a last stand for Microsoft, if they fail here, they are going to fade into obscurity over the years. Innovation and cheap prices will go out the "Window".
Soon we might all be wearing turtlenecks.
 

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. Innovation and cheap prices will go out the "Window". .

Cheap price will be thing of the past with Windows 8, Microsoft will impose a 30% tax on Metro apps. Innovation? , they are copying Apple; “you want develop Metro Apps, well they gone have to be certified by us and sell by us" “ You want to sell Window 8 certified PC, well you have to block the BIOS to make sure nothing else run in it” Is it not similar to Apple ?

 

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You want to sell Window 8 certified PC, well you have to block the BIOS to make sure nothing else run in it” Is it not similar to Apple ?

I think the blocking of the bios thing has already been abadoned (not real sure on that), although they're still doing it on ARM I believe, which is understandable in a way, as these are going to be lower powered machines.

Even with the 30% "tax" Apps are a lot cheaper than normal progs.

It probably is similar to Apple, just a lot cheaper to build and buy machines, and I can build a machine to whatever specs I want.
 

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Of course they will abandone the BIOS look, they will be bring in court in US and Europe is they do so . But they try it.
 

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I find that hilarious on apple's behalf. A product that made them who they are to be shoved to the wayside for a giant itouch with a crispy screen and superfluous graphics chipset. Wow....and all for 500 dollars, about half the price of a mac with an i5 processor and the ability to actually have a file navigator in the OS.
 

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Going by the comments on this Forum, Microsoft might as well shut up shop now, nobody knows how to use Windows 8, or just plain dont want to use it.
I think we'd better all start learning Mac because I fear for the future of Microsoft. Get used to buying hugely overpriced machines and not building your own anymore. These are dark days indeed.



Mac? No.

But Linux is sounding more appealing by the minute.....
 

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Going by the comments on this Forum, Microsoft might as well shut up shop now, nobody knows how to use Windows 8, or just plain dont want to use it.
I think we'd better all start learning Mac because I fear for the future of Microsoft. Get used to buying hugely overpriced machines and not building your own anymore. These are dark days indeed.


But Linux is sounding more appealing by the minute.....



Did you ever fully configer Ubuntu or any other major Linux distro and do serious work with it. I am running Ubuntu since 3 years and still have to do many things via Terminal (command line). And let me tell you, the windows cmd is a piece of cake compared to Terminal. It is fun, but not very practical.
 

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Going by the comments on this Forum, Microsoft might as well shut up shop now, nobody knows how to use Windows 8, or just plain dont want to use it.
I think we'd better all start learning Mac because I fear for the future of Microsoft. Get used to buying hugely overpriced machines and not building your own anymore. These are dark days indeed.


But Linux is sounding more appealing by the minute.....



Did you ever fully configer Ubuntu or any other major Linux distro and do serious work with it. I am running Ubuntu since 3 years and still have to do many things via Terminal (command line). And let me tell you, the windows cmd is a piece of cake compared to Terminal. It is fun, but not very practical.



Yes, have used Ubuntu and XandrOS in the past. Also have a bootable copy of Lindows on a thumb-drive.

Comes in handy sometimes:)
 

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Yeah, I keep a bootable copy of Puppy on a stick. Use that to recover files for friends that sacked their systems.
 

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I've used Ubuntu, Dream Linux, Puppy Linux and others, I find them quite good. I still boot into Linux on my Netbook and even on my main computer from time to time.

I would like to say I love it, but I don't, its just not Windows.

But if Microsoft fails, it looks like I'll be liking it a lot more.
 

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I can't see Microsoft failing with Windows 8. I think your being a bit too pessimistic in your viewpoint regarding Microsoft's future. The predictions are that Microsoft will sell more than a billion Windows licenses over the next three years. That does not sound like a company that is about to go down the tubes or stop manufacturing the Windows OS.

Tim Cook's post-PC iPad domination dream crushed by reality


In the future though, you may not even be able to dual boot your PC anymore into Linux thanks to the new UEFI BIOS's that are starting to come out. You might want to read this article regarding the negatives of UEFI in Windows 8.

Why the Windows 8 UEFI secure boot thing has me worried

"Windows 8 Unified Extensible Firmware Interface secure boot requirement doesn't portend the arrival of the Four Horsemen, but it does suggest they're logged onto Expedia and are planning the trip."
 
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........you may not even be able to dual boot your PC anymore into Linux thanks to the new UEFI BIOS's that are starting to come out. You might want to read this article regarding the negatives of UEFI in Windows 8.


And you think company like Asus will not give the opportunity to their customers to disable this function in the BIOS? Wait to see the US and some European country step in a antitrust action against Microsoft if so. Anyway Microsoft is already stepping back on it. Actually in some European country have express concern about the fact that the US government can use the patriot act to put their nose on Microsoft servers ( like for Office 365) locate outside US.
 

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........you may not even be able to dual boot your PC anymore into Linux thanks to the new UEFI BIOS's that are starting to come out. You might want to read this article regarding the negatives of UEFI in Windows 8.


And you think company like Asus will not give the opportunity to their customers to disable this function in the BIOS? Wait to see the US and some European country step in a antitrust action against Microsoft if so. Anyway Microsoft is already stepping back on it. Actually in some European country have express concern about the fact that the US government can use the patriot act to put their nose on Microsoft servers ( like for Office 365) locate outside US.

That's the question, will they or won't they include the option? I tend to agree with the writer of the article. He discusses it here:

"The operative phrase in all of this is "secure boot enabled". The obvious answer is "turn off secure boot". This would then mean that you could wipe the machine and install Linux or anything else that you fancied to install.

Two points for completeness:

Firstly, "why can't Linux be changed to include secure boot" is hugely complicated and beyond the scope of this argument. It's all to do with the fact that the private key implementation essentially requires a closed source, proprietary operating system like Windows and not an open OS like Linux. (There's a good write-up on ARS Technical. Windows 8 secure boot could complicate Linux installs )

Secondly, there is an – what to me is a frankly thin – argument that the motherboard manufacturers won't include the switch to turn secure boot off in the UEFI settings. This just isn't the style of how these guys build motherboards – if you think about it, people who build motherboards are the geekiest of the geek, they love switches and there's no current commercial motivation for them to disable the switch.

Plus having a split where some motherboards have the switch and others don't would create a split and additional complexity in the supply chain. The motivation of the supply chain tends towards simplification."
 

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Do manufacturers don't include a way to enable core on AMD CPU that AMD disable ? Also for many years Intel don’t allow us to OC their CPU, motherboard manufacturers as always make sure we can't do it.
Motherboard manufacturers are not dictated by Microsoft.
I speak alreay with Asus rep, they will make sure we can't disable it, they like to give extra to their customers. MSI rep. told me they will provide BIOS to do so, and we know how MSI are quick to make beta bios, you can even go on the MSI forum and for a small contribution, they gone make you a BIOS with the option you like.

If Microsoft force us to install their stuff, I will install Linux servers to my customers. If Dell force us, I will build PC for my customers. I don't like it , but I dislike more to be force.
 

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I'm sure that the option will be included, the writer of the article more or less thinks so too. He does say, "This just isn't the style of how these guys build motherboards – if you think about it, people who build motherboards are the geekiest of the geek, they love switches and there's no current commercial motivation for them to disable the switch."
 

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