Windows 8.1 - Wil EXternal Drive in Docking Station boot?

lafargeotte

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Hi,

Just replaced my OS (Win 8.1) Drive, and was planning on using the old drive as a back up.

This new (and old) drive have just the OS, all my programs and media etc are on other drives.

Can I put my old OS drive, with Windows 8.1 still installed, into a USB Docking Station, and use it as a back up boot drive. In other words will this drive boot from the Docking Station if I keep it up to date (Copy Disk regularly) in case of internal hard drive failure?

Thanks in advance?
 

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A regular poster on another forum does what you are suggesting. Except he takes it a step further. Since he builds his own, the system internal drive is in a quick release setup. If the drive has a problem he pulls it out and slides in the backup. He uses Macrium Reflect to image to the backup using a docking station.

But I've also heard from others that a drive in an enclosure will boot via USB. Some techs use that to boot into a fully working Windows system so they have all the tools needed to fix the customer system during a house call.

Don't ask me about licensing issues since I'm not an attorney. But the poster who does the haedware backup drive I would think is only using Windows on the one drive that is installed in the machine etc..
 

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Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I only want to keep the old drive in case the new one fails to boot for any reason. Hopefully that will not infringe any licensing matters.

I tried to boot from the disk. Got the usual Windows 8 boot screen, but at about the time it would load the login screen got the BSOD. Unfortunately there is no crash dump (not in the usual place anyway).

It has a different drive letter, O, instead of C, would that make any difference?
 

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I imagine it would have to be C: to work. Registry entries have hard coded drive letters.

Also with my friend, that was with an MBR system. Windows 8 has changed to GPT partition scheme and UEFI booting. I know with Windows 7 they could boot from the external. But Windows 8 may be more difficult. In any case, if the external drive is a clone then it should boot if you install it in the machine. So it's still a way to back up.
 

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Also, The drive letter for that drive in disk management when in your current install, will be different from what it is when you actually boot from the drive via USB.
 

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Officially yes that's true. Enterprise is the only one with the utility to create one built in. The second link I posted.
You can roll your own unofficial version though like in the first link I posted. I wouldn't exactly call it "TO GO" though. As it would likely only work reliably on the PC you created it on. Try it on to many PC's and you would likely get a failed activation etc.
 

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Officially yes that's true. Enterprise is the only one with the utility to create one built in. The second link I posted.
You can roll your own unofficial version though like in the first link I posted. I wouldn't exactly call it "TO GO" though. As it would likely only work reliably on the PC you created it on. Try it on to many PC's and you would likely get a failed activation etc.

yeah,that's why i deleted my post ,microsoft certifies usb drive ,here is an example of one ,kind of pricey .i have a laptop hdd in a cheap case setup as one but only played with it a few times
http://www.amazon.ca/128gb-Datatraveler-Workspace-Flash-Stand-Alone/dp/B00AHTKVF8
 

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doesn't work with win8 core or pro edition you need enterprise

Officially yes that's true. Enterprise is the only one with the utility to create one built in. The second link I posted.
You can roll your own unofficial version though like in the first link I posted. I wouldn't exactly call it "TO GO" though. As it would likely only work reliably on the PC you created it on. Try it on to many PC's and you would likely get a failed activation etc.

yeah,that's why i deleted my post ,microsoft certifies usb drive ,here is an example of one ,kind of pricey .i have a laptop hdd in a cheap case setup as one but only played with it a few times
http://www.amazon.ca/128gb-Datatraveler-Workspace-Flash-Stand-Alone/dp/B00AHTKVF8

The issue with thumb drives is they can't be "Removable Media". They have to have bit set in their firmware that ID's them as fixed media. I tried numerous "uncertified" drives and they don't show up in the Windows To GO utility. The certified drives have that bit switched. Like you I'm using an old 5400 RPM laptop drive in an external USB enclosure. I tried a 128 GB Lexar USB 3 thumb drive and a 64 GB Kingstone Hyper X USB thumb drive. The Windows TO Go utility won't use them. :mad:
 

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Officially yes that's true. Enterprise is the only one with the utility to create one built in. The second link I posted.
You can roll your own unofficial version though like in the first link I posted. I wouldn't exactly call it "TO GO" though. As it would likely only work reliably on the PC you created it on. Try it on to many PC's and you would likely get a failed activation etc.

yeah,that's why i deleted my post ,microsoft certifies usb drive ,here is an example of one ,kind of pricey .i have a laptop hdd in a cheap case setup as one but only played with it a few times
http://www.amazon.ca/128gb-Datatraveler-Workspace-Flash-Stand-Alone/dp/B00AHTKVF8

The issue with thumb drives is they can't be "Removable Media". They have to have bit set in their firmware that ID's them as fixed media. I tried numerous "uncertified" drives and they don't show up in the Windows To GO utility. The certified drives have that bit switched. Like you I'm using an old 5400 RPM laptop drive in an external USB enclosure. I tried a 128 GB Lexar USB 3 thumb drive and a 64 GB Kingstone Hyper X USB thumb drive. The Windows TO Go utility won't use them. :mad:

but the OP wants to use a clone of his setup on a external drive permanently ,and leave his original drive as a go to if needed .
 

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but the OP wants to use a clone of his setup on a external drive permanently ,and leave his original drive as a go to if needed .

Yes, I digressed a bit, sorry. My original post with the links was just to show that there was a little more to it that just cloning the drive and trying to boot from it. My hope is that something in the tutorial will show the OP how to get it to work. To be honest, I've only glanced at it myself. I have a working official WTG drive.
 

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Instead of worrying about boot from USB the OP may be better off just using a drive tray for the internal drive. My friend on the other forum who is enamored of docking stations keeps backup clone drives in a drawer. He claims he boots out of drive failures in 15 miinutes or less. I believe him. At least for MBR based systems. I doubt he has migrated to W8.
 

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The drive tray should work, that puts the drive back to being internal and not external going though the USB adapter. One way is free, if you can get it to work, the other isn't. It doesn't hurt to have options though, so it was s a good idea to mention it. :thumb:
 

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Thanks guys for your help. I was hoping that I could boot from the drive as a standby, but maybe not.

I think I will just make a weekly copy of my OS Drive to this old drive, and then if my OS Drive has a problem, I can just put the old drive back into the tower and boot that way.

If anyone else has any thoughts though, I would happily try anything!
 

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    1920 x 1080
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    Seagate ST380815AS (80GB) System Disk
    Seagate ST31000528AS (1TB) - 2 Partitions (Programs & Storage)
    Samsung HD1035SJ (1TB) - 2 Partitions (Downloads & BackUp)
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    CPU & Case Fan
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Hi there

Windows to GO is only for ENTERPRISE version -- there isn't any way to make OTHER VERSIONS of WINDOWS boot NATIVELY from an external USB drive -- this discussion often comes up but usually it's solutions like mounting VHD's (Virtual Hard drives) or whatever which require the BOOT device in the computer to be working.

The best way of making a REAL totally portable bootable USB system where you can boot even if the internal HDD is totally gone is to create a small Linux system, start up VMWARE's VMPLAYER and boot up a Windows Virtual machine -- this will run 100% from the external HDD and be totally portable.

Here's a link to my thread on creating this type of stuff.

http://www.eightforums.com/installa...make-portable-windows-system-any-version.html

On the Linux / Windows Virtual Machine you can say install backup images of your internal "C" drive - which you could restore or copy to another HDD if you were replacing your internal HDD.


But NOBODY AFAIK (apart from the Windows to Go feature in Enterprise) has been able to create a BOOTABLE RUNNING NATIVE Windows system that runs 100% from the EXTERNAL HDD - even if there is NO Internal HDD in the computer.

(An direct external e_sata connection might however work as this is connected directly to the MOBO so Windows will think it's an internal HDD -- but for USB drives -- no go I'm afraid --if you've done it please post --remember it must also work even if there is NO internal HDD in the computer).

I haven't got a computer with an e-sata external connection - but if someone has - can you see if a Windows disk will boot from this -- note a proper Windows system not the Install system which has no problem running from external devices).

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Excellent idea Jimbo ... I note these cards are quite inexpensive as well...
 

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Hi there

Windows to GO is only for ENTERPRISE version -- there isn't any way to make OTHER VERSIONS of WINDOWS boot NATIVELY from an external USB drive -- this discussion often comes up but usually it's solutions like mounting VHD's (Virtual Hard drives) or whatever which require the BOOT device in the computer to be working.

The best way of making a REAL totally portable bootable USB system where you can boot even if the internal HDD is totally gone is to create a small Linux system, start up VMWARE's VMPLAYER and boot up a Windows Virtual machine -- this will run 100% from the external HDD and be totally portable.

Here's a link to my thread on creating this type of stuff.

http://www.eightforums.com/installa...make-portable-windows-system-any-version.html

On the Linux / Windows Virtual Machine you can say install backup images of your internal "C" drive - which you could restore or copy to another HDD if you were replacing your internal HDD.


But NOBODY AFAIK (apart from the Windows to Go feature in Enterprise) has been able to create a BOOTABLE RUNNING NATIVE Windows system that runs 100% from the EXTERNAL HDD - even if there is NO Internal HDD in the computer.

(An direct external e_sata connection might however work as this is connected directly to the MOBO so Windows will think it's an internal HDD -- but for USB drives -- no go I'm afraid --if you've done it please post --remember it must also work even if there is NO internal HDD in the computer).

I haven't got a computer with an e-sata external connection - but if someone has - can you see if a Windows disk will boot from this -- note a proper Windows system not the Install system which has no problem running from external devices).

Cheers
jimbo

The first link I posted, the tutorial by WHS, seems to indicate otherwise, that it is doable. Mind you I personally haven't tried it. http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5349-windows-8-go-setup-usb-flash-drive-usb-disk.html
 

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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
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    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
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    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
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    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
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    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
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    Stock heatsink fan
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    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
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    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
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    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
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