can not close open window panes uggggh

mrelmo

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ok when a window is open and an attachment (to view pictures) or any additional window is open, i can not close the window "pane" i go to the upper left hand corner and try to drag it to the bottom but sometimes that wont work, another one was when the calulator was open i can not find how to close it if i opened it while having another window open this is very frustrating
 

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Are you talking about Metro tiles, or Desktop windows?
 

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Try ALT+F4. That always closes the last window opened.
 

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hmmmm well i would need to know the difference between metro tiles and desktop windows
 

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hmmmm well i would need to know the difference between metro tiles and desktop windows
It's easy, Metro aka Modern UI is the screen with a bunch of ugly squares and desktop pretty picture without them. Since you mentioned Left tp corner for closing program, I guess you are talking about Metro App.
 

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i thought that each new version was to make things easier and quicker. the F4 works but would't an x button be better. why fix something that is not broken
 

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i thought that each new version was to make things easier and quicker. the F4 works but would't an x button be better. why fix something that is not broken
It IS getting better, 8.1.1 update has that "X" in the right hand top corner, to close or minimize that app window, Hmmm, better late than never.
 

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i thought that each new version was to make things easier and quicker. the F4 works but would't an x button be better. why fix something that is not broken

One thing you must remember is that the modern apps and screens were designed to be touch friendly. That's why they can be dragged to the bottom of the screen to close instead since tapping on a small X in the upper right corner might not be so easy on a smaller screen.

As Mike posted, the Windows 8.1.1 update is adding the X back for modern apps to help. Hopefully it'll be big enough. :)
 

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Bottom line: When they designed Windows 8, they forgot the desktop user. And that's why nobody wants it. Now they want to pacify us with tidbits but it ain't gonna work. A tablet OS will not fly on a desktop.
 

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Hey Wolfgang,

They didn't forget the desktop folks since the desktop is in Windows 8 just like it was in Windows 7.

In Windows 8/8.1, you just have the modern UI added to have both a modern UI and desktop mode now.
 

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ok but i can not locate the 8.1.1 update

It's not going to be available through Windows Update until April 8th 2014. :)
 

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Hey Wolfgang,

They didn't forget the desktop folks since the desktop is in Windows 8 just like it was in Windows 7.

In Windows 8/8.1, you just have the modern UI added to have both a modern UI and desktop mode now.
Yeah, the modern UI, the full screen apps, the charms that pop up, the corners that do things, etc. - all that stuff has to be removed for the desktop user. Who needs it.

I use W8.1 on my tablet and W8 on the phone. And there it is perfect. But on the desktop I will not use it. If they don't clearly seperate desktop edition and tablet edition, I will stay on 7 or use Mint.
 

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Hey Wolfgang,

They didn't forget the desktop folks since the desktop is in Windows 8 just like it was in Windows 7.

In Windows 8/8.1, you just have the modern UI added to have both a modern UI and desktop mode now.
Yeah, the modern UI, the full screen apps, the charms that pop up, the corners that do things, etc. - all that stuff has to be removed for the desktop user. Who needs it.

I use W8.1 on my tablet and W8 on the phone. And there it is perfect. But on the desktop I will not use it. If they don't clearly seperate desktop edition and tablet edition, I will stay on 7 or use Mint.

Then such a user that only wants the desktop should stick with Windows 7.

I'm just saying that Windows 8 and 8.1 has a desktop just as functional as Windows 7 is if they would like to also have the modern UI.
 

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i agree that the desktop users should stay with 7 but try and buy a new laptop with 7 very hard to find, and how long before they drop support for 7, 2 or 3 years?
 

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i agree that the desktop users should stay with 7 but try and buy a new laptop with 7 very hard to find, and how long before they drop support for 7, 2 or 3 years?

It's not hard to only use the desktop in Windows 8.1 if one chooses as well though, so it's really nothing to worry about.

It's all about options, and the option to not use the options you don't want to use. :)
 

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ok but i can not locate the 8.1.1 update
That is because 8.1 Update 1 will not be released to consumers until April.
 

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Shawn, we have no disagreement. My point is simply that the 8 systems were designed from the wrong end for the desktop users that have no touch. I have 3 desktops and 4 laptops without touch and I can find absolutely no justification to dish out a lot of money to upgrade to 8.1.

Even if I tuned it with all the tricks that we know, there is just not enough additional desirable function to spend any maney. And the performance point is pretty moot for me because all my systems run from SSDs.

The 8.1 that I run with VMware Player on my desktops from the external SSD is very interesting as a study object and to help me answer questions on the 8-forums. But I would not like to run my daily operations on it.

Don't forget that I have been implementing, designing and managing operatng systems for 35 years. I know very well that MS could have clearly seperated the desktop and the tablets. But they wanted to push a 'strategy' rather than make their customers happy. I have seen that before - it never worked.
 

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Shawn, we have no disagreement. My point is simply that the 8 systems were designed from the wrong end for the desktop users that have no touch. I have 3 desktops and 4 laptops without touch and I can find absolutely no justification to dish out a lot of money to upgrade to 8.1.

Even if I tuned it with all the tricks that we know, there is just not enough additional desirable function to spend any maney. And the performance point is pretty moot for me because all my systems run from SSDs.

The 8.1 that I run with VMware Player on my desktops from the external SSD is very interesting as a study object and to help me answer questions on the 8-forums. But I would not like to run my daily operations on it.

Don't forget that I have been implementing, designing and managing operatng systems for 35 years. I know very well that MS could have clearly seperated the desktop and the tablets. But they wanted to push a 'strategy' rather than make their customers happy. I have seen that before - it never worked.

I don't disagree with that mate, but I just wanted to point out that what you posted below wasn't true. That's all.



Bottom line: When they designed Windows 8, they forgot the desktop user. And that's why nobody wants it. Now they want to pacify us with tidbits but it ain't gonna work. A tablet OS will not fly on a desktop.
 

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