The start menu was once a feature that was heavily used and designed for that heavy use. In fact, most Windows versions up to xp, after login or startup, the start menu always popped up. That forced the user to use it. But you're not in two different environments, the Start Screen is basically the unmasked layer of the Desktop where ALL your executable programs and apps lie in. The Desktop is where you work with those programs. Also, if you look at the typical Windows 7 user's start menu, you might see a small, default start menu with the Most Frequently Used programs either pinned or on that list. But if you click or hover on All Programs, you see the default list of built in programs, then, you discover the biggest mess of folders and subfolders of installed programs, drivers, and manufacturers' utilities. The reason why it's such is because the average user doesn't deal with that clutter because they never see it. And thus, they never realize what all is installed on their PC without going to the Programs and Features list in Control Panel. The idea is if the average user sees more tiles than usual, or new or different ones, it gets their attention. They might actually use the programs and apps installed on the PC or discover ones they never knew were there, unlike the start menu.
The fact that a user finds something so simple so difficult really makes it obvious that the user really needs to put a little more time into using the system, just saying....
I concede that, for some unknown reason, the icons remain tiny in "All Programs".
The "Extra Large Icons" in Windows Explorer are ~256 x ~256 (actually larger when you include the text).
Last edited by lehnerus2000; 11 Mar 2012 at 07:13.
It seems there is a misunderstanding here.
I am not sure we are disagreeing.
It appears that for those whose needs are simple - like my Dad - the folk at WHS computer club, and several people who post here - the metro UI is fine.
All those who can do everything they want from a mobile phone ( they might use something else for printing ) - will be fine with it.
It is for the second group - the people who need more than that - those of us who do "computer" things - not just "mobile phone" things - Metro is a hindrance.
The problem with Windows 8; it’s a “goal oriented marketing “instead of a “Customers oriented marketing” Microsoft want to fix their tablet and phone market problem, they don’t want to give the OS their customers want, this is not acceptable, you may be the kind of person to buy everything someone tries to sell you, but I’m not.
I just fire a Android 4.0 in VM, they don't use Huge Metro Tiles, they use regular icons, do we need live tiles, are those gadgets not doying the same thing ?
Look , I can see the tool bar at right, why with Windows 8, I have to make some chirurgical move with the mouse to bring it on ? Also, I can slide the screen left and right with the mouse in Android VM
Last edited by area 66; 11 Mar 2012 at 09:15.
I agree. A size selection for the tiles would solve the problem for both of us. Maybe they give us that option in the RTM.
Just my 2 cents:
I'm reading all these complaints about how difficult it is to find something, or how something works on Windows 8 CP. "I am an experienced Windows veteran since version XXX and I can not find this and can not do that", that seems to be a common nominator.
OK. I am an experienced Windows user, since absolute beginning of Windows. When I first saw Win 8 CP it was clear it is so different than previous versions that even experienced users might need to consult manuals and other written instructions.
I did so. And now I have absolutely no problems to navigate deeper and deeper on Win 8 CP, find what I need. The point is we should forget now the fact we are "experts" and start instead reading manuals. I know it's cool to brag that "only n00bs read manuals, I do not need them for I am a pro", but it's wrong attitude.
Control Panel cannot be found:BS! Can not hibernate: BS! Can not change this or that: BS!
Stop complaining. Read.
- Windows 8 Consumer Preview
- Windows 8 Consumer Preview Guide (pdf)