On this thread again - yikes
On this thread again - yikes
I will probably always be a Microsoft developer but it will be with the products I've already purchased. If Microsoft continues on this stupid "Modern" track with all their GUI's then they won't see any more of my dollars unless I'm buying another copy of Win7 or something. I bought a brand-spanking-new notebook system to avoid the Win8 transition. It's solid, locked down and should do fine for a long time. Bye Win8.
As for the cloud point, I agree completely. I use a little bit of cloud storage as backup, but I will not place anything critical out there that I can't afford to lose. No way, no how, not gonna happen! ;-)
Metro IE10s unusability comes from the fact that you CAN'T resize it. Also the Flash doesn't work half the places you go. Coupled with the the don't track feature (which is good in theory) there are sites that you simply can't see or log into.
Everyone has their set fave sites they go to and those sites are different for everyone. If you've somehow managed to not get caught with IE10's OOB incomptability, consider yourself lucky. It's the #1 reason I DON'T use FF or Chrome, they are broken on too many sites. IE /used to/ be most compatible. With IE10 that is looking like it's no longer the case.
When I have site problems, it's usually because NoScript is blocking the hundreds of cascading js routines (and Flash widgets) that seem to be the norm these days.
IE10 is supposed to be more standards compliant.
It's nowhere near as compliant as Chrome (which I don't like/use) or even FF.
Seems like you are saying too many sites are still coded for IE6.
I still think that Microsoft would have been better off by starting from scratch with a tablet O/S and not trying to integrate the two directly. Instead of screwing around with desktop Windows (which is wildly successful), the tablet O/S should have been developed specifically for tablet machines. In the desktop version of the O/S just provide a subsystem that will allow the user to run the "Modern" apps if they want to and craft Visual Studio to develop to the tablet O/S. Leave the desktop totally alone and add on the pieces necessary to support the tablet experience.
But no ... Microsoft had to try and shove everybody down the same pipe. Even non "Metro" (I mean "Modern") stuff (including their web sites) are all taking on the flat "chromeless" look. IMO this is a major overkill.
On my sytem I went to make a change to a mouse setting. The normal desktop Control-Panel utility comes up but the tab for the mouse settings is now empty except for a link. Click the link then (after waiting 15 seconds or so) another application loads with the mouse settings. It looks just like Metro (I mean Modern). It looks very patched sitting there on an Aero desktop. There was no reason to rework that whole thing just so it looks like Metro ... it looks like a hack and is slow as hell when loading. It's almost all whitespace and knowing where to click things requires hovering the mouse over text in different places. The concept of control buttons on forms seems to be going away. Ugly as hell.
The security and stability issues that compromised XP were addressed in Vista however as well as the improved crash control. XP would simply end up blue screening far more often. Compatibility issues with older programs and lack of drivers suppoort were the main items on the list however besides the larger kernel that tended to weight the older version down ended up seeing a bad rep.
The CP here was found to be reliable as well for what it was being a new version with some enhancements and a few much needed improvements as far as the MS side of virus/malware protection namely a renamed MS Security Essentials to replace a worthless Windows Defender that never did much! Other core elements have also seen a further development of the MinWin kernel brought in first with 7. At least MS is continuing on with the modular type kernel to see that part of Windows made progressive.
The way MS decided to trash the desktop concept however by the way they implemented the "Modern" or whatever it will carry for a name is why most are up in arms about the drastic gui changes best suited for an embedded OS not for any form of standard desktop platform.
It's not simply bringing in the Start screen idea for touchscreen monitors making this type of interface available but how MS went about stripping the common denominators of a traditional desktop OS out without leaving any options for the user! The 3.1 to 95 change of gui there was the best move MS ever made gui wise and was seen as progress.
Touchscreen support was improved with 7 but how MS is trashing the Desktop for Modern? How MS is bringing the gui changes this time however leaves much to be desired. While playing party favors to rivel the fruit company on the mobile market along with any improvement as far as touchscreen technology they seem to have abandoned the desktop user!
So how does it look in the long run? Here without being able to set WMP as the default playback medium for video capture/vcd projects and relying on some 3rd party program like VLC 7 still picks up the slack 8 would now be bringing in! Compatibility issues to some extent otherwise would be the normal thing to expect to some extent with any new version to come.
As for IE while one version will come default with each new version to follow IE 6 for XP, IE 7 for Vista, IE 8 for 7, and now IE 10 for 8 IE 8 seems to have been the best so far with 7 being a vast improvement for Vista to replace the practically useless IE 6 filled with too many security holes. IE 9 could be problematic while the beta for 10 had been looking better.
With the 64bit Windows in use here the solution was to be found elsewhere however yet still needing IE at times for a select list of things like software updates. The next version however is still seeing some rough edges until being finalized and seen out with 8 and no longer just the beta form as seen with the CP and RP builds. Once you see IE 10 available for Vista/7 then you will know the finished 10 is out.
Paul Allen likes Windows 8 -- well, except for a few things
...But the dual modes may be pretty confusing for users, especially when two versions of the same application, like Internet Explorer, can be opened and run simultaneously.
Windows 8 does certainly require a brief adjustment period before users become familiar and comfortable with the new bimodal operating system," Allen noted. For one criticism, Windows doesn't allow users to start their systems with the desktop as the default view, something Allen says should be an option. Instead, they start in the Windows 8 style. And the "Charms" bar, which offers access to important features like search and settings, isn't easily obviously to users.
What Allen found most "puzzling" was adjusting to the new features as a traditional desktop user. For example, he had a hard time using multiple monitors, and the system would sometimes switch between the two modes when he didn't really want it to.
"Personally, I would almost always prefer for Windows to leave me in whichever mode I was already in," Allen said.
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Paul Allen likes Windows 8 -- well, except for a few things | Microsoft - CNET News
I've been an IE booster since 7 over anything else because of site compatibility, but IE 10 is eroding that quickly now that I've been using it a lot...