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Someone I help remotely via Teamviewer bought a Win 8 Lenovo laptap and asked me for help getting it set up.
It's a Lenovo - IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro Ultrabook with Win 8.1 preinstalled
Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro Ultrabook 2in1 13.3" TouchScreen Laptop 8GB Memory Yoga 2 Pro-59386391 - Best Buy

She also bought an external USB DVD burner.
I created a bootable Macrium Rescue disc so we can restore from a Backup Image if needed.
The laptop won't boot from the USB DVD drive and gets a "blocked by the current security policy" error.

How can I boot from an external USB drive?
Is there a setting in BIOS that will allow booting from the DVD?

I found this thread in the Lenovo forum for a different model that mentions "turn off secure boot", if it's an available option.
Secure Boot Problem - Lenovo Community

I found this Lenovo BIOS simulator but I don't see a listing for a Yoga 2 Pro, so I'm not sure what settings are possible in this laptop.
Lenovo Partner Portal | BIOS Simulator Matrix

Thanks in advance,
David
 

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Thanks ErraticFox for the link.

That tutorial is for creating a bootable USB flash drive or DVD.
I don't see where it explains how to use a Bootable USB drive that is blocked by "security policy".

I did find how to use the Novo button to be able to select the DVD drive to boot from, it just won't boot :(
 

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I don't see where it explains how to use a Bootable USB drive that is blocked by "security policy".

Did you not change the boot priority to the DVD from the BIOS? I'm not really great with Lenovo so I would not know what the Novo button is. :\
 

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The Novo button basically allows a "One time boot option" so you can select the device to boot from for that boot up.
It's not a problem selecting the DVD drive as the boot device, it just won't boot from the DVD drive because of "security policy".

I need to know how to remove this "security policy" restriction, if it's possible.
 

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I found this thread in the Lenovo forum for a different model that mentions "turn off secure boot", if it's an available option.

That is you issue. From Lenovo forums it appears it should be in the BIOS under security tab - turn off secure boot. I have legacy BIOS so can't check it though.
 

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I'm helping remotely via Teamviewer so I can't see the BIOS setup.
The person I'm helping has never used BIOS setup before.
My PCs are older, so I've never used the "new EFI" BIOS, and I don't know what's possible.
I just don't want to tell her to start making BIOS changes that may cause more problems than they solve.

So, If she has a "turn off secure boot" option, I should tell her to turn it off?
And hopefully that would fix this issue without causing more problems.
 

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@adamf - She works late, so I'll see if she can find the "turn off secure boot" option next time I help her with this.

@lifetetc - That is an interesting article. A lot of changes to learn about and understand.

fwiw, with this Lenovo laptop you can get to BIOS setup using the Novo button.
It's a physical button on the right side of the laptop.
These are snips from the Lenovo User Guide:

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All 3rd party software, bootable CD/DVD/USB disks, which fully supports Windows 8/8.1, uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot.
Which is signed by Microsoft, will boot with Secure Boot ENABLED.
 

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Good info here!
 

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I found out this laptop does have the option to disable secure boot, and we disabled it.
That solves the "security policy" issue when trying to boot from the external DVD with a Macrium Rescue disc.
However, it hangs when trying to boot into Macrium, so we can't get to the Macrium window.

I downloaded the Macrium ISO from whs's Skydrive at
Imaging with free Macrium - Windows 7 Help Forums
I burned the bootable ISO DVD with the Win 8 built-in burner and ImgBurn, both discs hang.

With Win 8 do we need to use a bootable USB flash drive for this?

I found this tutorial, so that would be my next attempt to try and get a "Recovery ability" on this laptop.
MACRIUM REFLECT - Create Bootable Rescue USB Drive - Windows 7 Help Forums
 

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Do not use the Windows 7 version of Macrium Rescue disc, which will use WinPE3, you need WinPE5.

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i think i got your problem
you should get to the BIOS and the change the priority of the booting
 

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i think i got your problem
you should get to the BIOS and the change the priority of the booting

No you are completely wrong. You need to change BIOS to boot from USB if that is what you want to do and you must also turn off secure boot if your boot CD or USB is not signed by MS.
 

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Thanks to everyone for helping. :)

I created several "boot media" on my old W7 desktop and can boot from them:
- A CD with the Rescue.iso created by Macrium and burned with Imgburn
- A CD with the Macrium WinPE 5.2.iso downloaded from whs Skydrive and burned with Imgburn
- A USB Flash drive with YUMI with both ISOs

I had to rename Macrium WinPE 5.2.iso to MWPE52.iso to get the YUMI bootloader to work.

I couldn't get her Lenovo W8 laptop to boot from any external media.

I suggested she take it back to Best Buy and let them figure it out.
She has 15 days where she can return it, and that time is running out.

I don't have a problem with MS or any vendor protecting against piracy.
But if the protection prevents honest people from using a PC easily, I do have a problem with that.
IMHO It should not be this difficult for a user to create a "recovery system", for both a restore to factory condition, and restore last good system backup image.
 

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    AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600+ Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Abit nf-m2-nview
    Memory
    4GB ddr2 800
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD 4670
    Sound Card
    on-board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32"
    Screen Resolution
    1360x768
    Hard Drives
    Samsung EVO 250 GB, Samsung 1TB Sata, many others
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    Dell USB wired
    Mouse
    V7 USB wired
    Internet Speed
    Uverse 12D/1.5U
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    PaleMoon, Firefox, IE
    Antivirus
    Panda or Avast or Avira + MBAM Premium
Thanks to everyone for helping. :)

I created several "boot media" on my old W7 desktop and can boot from them:
- A CD with the Rescue.iso created by Macrium and burned with Imgburn
- A CD with the Macrium WinPE 5.2.iso downloaded from whs Skydrive and burned with Imgburn
- A USB Flash drive with YUMI with both ISOs

I had to rename Macrium WinPE 5.2.iso to MWPE52.iso to get the YUMI bootloader to work.

I couldn't get her Lenovo W8 laptop to boot from any external media.

I suggested she take it back to Best Buy and let them figure it out.
She has 15 days where she can return it, and that time is running out.

I don't have a problem with MS or any vendor protecting against piracy.
But if the protection prevents honest people from using a PC easily, I do have a problem with that.
IMHO It should not be this difficult for a user to create a "recovery system", for both a restore to factory condition, and restore last good system backup image.

You need to make the "boot media" on a Windows 8/8.1 x64 installed PC.
 

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The media was created on the Win 8.1 laptop that she is using.

I don't have Win 8.
I tested the best I could, on my Win 7 PC to see if I had issues creating and using Macrium bootable media.
I'm helping this person remotely via Teamviewer, so I don't have hands on access to the Win 8 laptop.
 

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    AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600+ Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Abit nf-m2-nview
    Memory
    4GB ddr2 800
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD 4670
    Sound Card
    on-board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32"
    Screen Resolution
    1360x768
    Hard Drives
    Samsung EVO 250 GB, Samsung 1TB Sata, many others
    Keyboard
    Dell USB wired
    Mouse
    V7 USB wired
    Internet Speed
    Uverse 12D/1.5U
    Browser
    PaleMoon, Firefox, IE
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    Panda or Avast or Avira + MBAM Premium
I have tested Macrium bootable media, made on a Windows 8.1 PC, will boot fine.

To check.
1) USB Boot mode must be UEFI.
2) Must be made with WinPE5.
3) USB drive must be formatted to FAT32.
 

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