Solved System Restore from W8 Install disk for a W8.1 System?

Ken429

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Dumb question - if I panic and have to do a system restore or system reset using the install DVD for W8 what will happen to the W8.1 version I just downloaded and installed?
 

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I don't know if that will work, probably not, but you can always try it, at the most it will inform you that it can't find any restore points. We are after all, using the Install Disk to tell the installed OS to run System Restore. I don't know, try it, if it works or does not work, let us know. I've never tried it, but I have both 8 and 8.1 install disks.
 

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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
Hello Ken,

If you upgraded to 8.1 and do a reset or refresh, then it'll go back to 8. If you like, you could create a custom recovery image to use to refresh with instead to not lose 8.1 though.

If you do a system restore, it'll only go back to a point of time in 8.1 that the restore point was created on. Any restore points you had before upgrading to 8.1 would have been removed.

Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
 

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Could he just re-download or re-install the 8.1 update if that happens? Make sure all your important data is backed up.
 

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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
Have done a clean reinstallation from the ISO purchased in the £25 offer which included media.
It was NOT done in the APP STORE.
During the installation I was offered the choice of downloading either W8 or W8.1.
 

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In that case, you will not be able to refresh or reset with a Windows 8 installation media on Windows 8.1.

You may or may not be able to do a system restore, but I wouldn't count on it either.

You'll need to use the same installation media as what you have installed.
 

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Could he just re-download or re-install the 8.1 update if that happens? Make sure all your important data is backed up.

Yep, he sure could. Luckily this is not anything to worry about in this case though.
 

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That's what we are here for - To find crazy ways for people to fix their PC's

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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
In that case, you will not be able to refresh or reset with a Windows 8 installation media on Windows 8.1.

You may or may not be able to do a system restore, but I wouldn't count on it either.

You'll need to use the same installation media as what you have installed.

Brink.
Not quite sure whether you are referring to my previous post.
Both System Restore and Media are working perfectly in W8.1
Windows Media was installed directly from the Microsoft website using my key.
Of course this was a CLEAN installation so only the system was installed, so backup of personal data is essential.
 

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Since I have three copies of W8 and three machines running W8.1 I will create a Custom Recover Image for each machine. I already make complete system backups early and often using Acronis 2014 and EaseUS. Seems like Microsoft should have a way for those of us that loaded up on W8 and then "upgraded" to W8.1 to get restore to W8.1 capability.
 

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    W.8.1 Pro Update 1
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    GSkill 2400-10
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    Samsung S27B350
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    Microsoft Sidewinder X4
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    Malwarebytes
@dencal You may want to explain what you mean by "system restore". Windows has a built in feature called System Restore that lets you revert your PC to previously saved Restore Points. This is not the same as restoring your PC to factory condition with recovery media. Most people refer to that as a System Recovery or factory restore. < If that is what you are doing calling it System Restore may confuse some people.
 

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Since I have three copies of W8 and three machines running W8.1 I will create a Custom Recover Image for each machine. I already make complete system backups early and often using Acronis 2014 and EaseUS. Seems like Microsoft should have a way for those of us that loaded up on W8 and then "upgraded" to W8.1 to get restore to W8.1 capability.

How did you buy your Windows 8?
 

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@dencal You may want to explain what you mean by "system restore". Windows has a built in feature called System Restore that lets you revert your PC to previously saved Restore Points. This is not the same as restoring your PC to factory condition with recovery media. Most people refer to that as a System Recovery or factory restore. < If that is what you are doing calling it System Restore may confuse some people.

System Restore is the wording used by Microsoft, and is a backup which can be configured to protect your present setup, in my case W8.1.
I did a factory restore as explained by using my ISO and was given the choice to download either W8 or W8.1 as explained in an earlier post.
You can play with words, I can only quote M$
 

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@dencal You may want to explain what you mean by "system restore". Windows has a built in feature called System Restore that lets you revert your PC to previously saved Restore Points. This is not the same as restoring your PC to factory condition with recovery media. Most people refer to that as a System Recovery or factory restore. < If that is what you are doing calling it System Restore may confuse some people.

System Restore is the wording used by Microsoft, and is a backup which can be configured to protect your present setup, in my case W8.1.
I did a factory restore as explained by using my ISO and was given the choice to download either W8 or W8.1 as explained in an earlier post.
You can play with words, I can only quote M$

Hey, I was just trying to help. I'm not playing with words. I know how System Restore works and Reset and Refresh. You seem to have it all figured out so have fun.
 

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    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
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    Stock heatsink fan
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    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
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    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
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@dencal You may want to explain what you mean by "system restore". Windows has a built in feature called System Restore that lets you revert your PC to previously saved Restore Points. This is not the same as restoring your PC to factory condition with recovery media. Most people refer to that as a System Recovery or factory restore. < If that is what you are doing calling it System Restore may confuse some people.

System Restore is the wording used by Microsoft, and is a backup which can be configured to protect your present setup, in my case W8.1.
I did a factory restore as explained by using my ISO and was given the choice to download either W8 or W8.1 as explained in an earlier post.
You can play with words, I can only quote M$

You can not do a Factory Restore, with the download ISO, a Factory Restore can only be done using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Partition or DVD/USB disk.
 

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    Towers x 4
How did you buy your Windows 8?

theog,
One via internet download directly from MSFT and two in the box from NewEgg or Amazon. All three copies were purchased early on when MSFT was offering W8 for ~$50 a copy.
 

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System One

  • OS
    W.8.1 Pro Update 1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    3770K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 OC Formula
    Memory
    GSkill 2400-10
    Graphics Card(s)
    None
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S27B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080
    Hard Drives
    Mushkin Chronos DX-7 240GB, WD Raptor 250Gb, 3 -WD Raptors 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic X750
    Case
    Corsair 800D
    Cooling
    Swiftech Apogee HD 3X120 Rad
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Sidewinder X4
    Mouse
    Microsoft Exporer 2.0
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
@dencal You may want to explain what you mean by "system restore". Windows has a built in feature called System Restore that lets you revert your PC to previously saved Restore Points. This is not the same as restoring your PC to factory condition with recovery media. Most people refer to that as a System Recovery or factory restore. < If that is what you are doing calling it System Restore may confuse some people.

System Restore is the wording used by Microsoft, and is a backup which can be configured to protect your present setup, in my case W8.1.
I did a factory restore as explained by using my ISO and was given the choice to download either W8 or W8.1 as explained in an earlier post.
You can play with words, I can only quote M$

You can not do a Factory Restore, with the download ISO, a Factory Restore can only be done using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Partition or DVD/USB disk.

Sorry to disappoint you, as explained in my earlier post.....a clean install.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
How did you buy your Windows 8?

theog,
One via internet download directly from MSFT and two in the box from NewEgg or Amazon. All three copies were purchased early on when MSFT was offering W8 for ~$50 a copy.

That is GOOD.

Take a look at those posts for more info.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18309-windows-8-windows-8-1-iso-download-create.html

How to download Windows 8.1 ISO with a Windows 8 key.
http://www.eightforums.com/installation-setup/33164-how-download-windows-8-1-iso.html

http://www.eightforums.com/installa...retail-windows-8-1-windows-8-product-key.html
 

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    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1
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    Desktops x 5

    Towers x 4
Its like they took it OUT, KNOWING that this was an issue, especially with OSes upgraded from The Store.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
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    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
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