Solved with 8.1, do I lose ability to use my start replacment?

Dark Rider

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I see Microsoft tried to pull a fast one by giving 8.1 users a fake start button. I use a third party app for a start button replacement called " Windows 7 explorer for Windows 8 (Ex7ForW8)"

found here Download Ex7forW8 v1.0 (freeware) - AfterDawn: Software downloads

I wanna know if installing the 8.1 will cause this to break. i know it may have to be reinstalled after the update - thats expected, but i wanna be sure it will work first because i cannot backup my whole system right now.

Has anyone tried this app with the 8.1 update?

I'm still on the fence about this update.. don't know if I want or need it but if this app won't work it will be a deal breaker.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion G7-2251dx
    CPU
    AMD A-8 4500M
    Memory
    8 Gigabytes DDR3 sdram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Discrete ATI Radeon HD 7640G with 2 Gigs
    Sound Card
    IDT Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900
    Hard Drives
    500 gig
    Internet Speed
    3.5 mb/sec
I was using Start8 from Stardock on my laptop....before I upgraded my laptop I uninstalled Start8 and then upgraded and then reinstalled Start8 with the latest version. It's just the way I do 3rd party software.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X 4 965 BE
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
    Memory
    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD XFX HD Radeon 6790D
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2l Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB w/OS
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB data storage
    PSU
    Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
    Case
    Thermaltake OverSeer RX 1 fulltower
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510
    Mouse
    Razor DeathAdder 3.5

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X 4 965 BE
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
    Memory
    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD XFX HD Radeon 6790D
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2l Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB w/OS
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB data storage
    PSU
    Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
    Case
    Thermaltake OverSeer RX 1 fulltower
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510
    Mouse
    Razor DeathAdder 3.5
If the classic shell functionality wasn't broken then i doubt Ex7ForW8 will be broken also. Good to know, but I'll stick around a bit longer to see if anyone can confirm this. Thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion G7-2251dx
    CPU
    AMD A-8 4500M
    Memory
    8 Gigabytes DDR3 sdram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Discrete ATI Radeon HD 7640G with 2 Gigs
    Sound Card
    IDT Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900
    Hard Drives
    500 gig
    Internet Speed
    3.5 mb/sec
Fwiw. It isn't really a "Fake" button. It takes you to the modern screen, which MS, and several users, (including me!9, do regard as the start menu, Right clicking it shows a few other useful options.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    Use several different computers during a day, so specs are irrelevant.
I got 8.1 Pro & didn't lose anything.
Had to update 5 drivers & get 2 Windows Updates though.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
    Screen Resolution
    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
    Hard Drives
    AMD K140
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Name AMD K140
    Package Socket FT1 BGA
    Technology 40nm
    Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
    Family F
    Extended Family 14
    Model 2
    Extended Model 2
    Stepping 0
    Revision ON-C0
    Instruction
    Browser
    Opera 24.0
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security
Thanks folks..

When I said fake it was after i had seen a couple of screen shots of the button in use.. they were showing only the right click menu. I didn't know that at the time. I have since seen a video showing the functionality and in this video, the start button does not take you to the modern UI ( Metro) screen, but it does open up a menu ! Still that menu is uglycompared to my normal windows 7 start button and menu, which is what my third party app above does - it actually uses a windows 7 disk to restore the real start button.

I have spent the last two hours reading all I can about the 8.1 update and I think i'm going to skip this update - it's not for me. The only improvements they made are mostly to the metro screen and it's metro apps. With my windows 7 start button and menu, my metro screen and all of the apps get disabled permanently. Since i don't use any of those stupid apps this update would not benefit me. I prefer real full applications I can control, and i prefer to choose my apps, not be forced to use Microsoft's.

The 8.1 update does some other odd things.. it deletes some apps and some functionality as well as adding some apps.. needless apps like a sound recorder for the metro start screen - this is a separate app altogether than the sound recorder for the desktop - why have two versions of the exact same app? Because the metro app wont work on the desktop and vice versa. That's stupid. Instead of fixing the problem and making all apps work across the board , they throw crap at the problem and hope it sticks. 8.1 causes many common features to be hidden and hard to find, like the option to bypass the metro screen on startup and they hide the hibernation settings from where they were.

I could go on but the net is full of all the horrible things this update does. If you like me do not use any metro type apps and you also use a third party start menu - you might wanna think long and hard before getting this update. It could make your experience much worse or at least waste your time and resources for something you dont need and won't use.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion G7-2251dx
    CPU
    AMD A-8 4500M
    Memory
    8 Gigabytes DDR3 sdram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Discrete ATI Radeon HD 7640G with 2 Gigs
    Sound Card
    IDT Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900
    Hard Drives
    500 gig
    Internet Speed
    3.5 mb/sec
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