[ZenKey] Suggestions, tricks, thoughts, for the minimalist

Win8fait

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I just posted this. Thought it could use it's own thread to isolate and collect suggestions or ideas for ways of running Windows 8x in such a mode.

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….I need to fully explore this new zero desktop-icon/zero-taskbar/zero-toolbar thing. The path of ZenKey; using the Winkey to access literally everything - all documents and functions, without exception.

Maybe I can create a theme with 1-pixel width window frames, and instead of calling them "frames" they are called "event horizons". More stuff like that. Sounds scheme all ancient gongs. A version of Chrome that is a widget the size of a URL box - etc.

..One Winkey to rule them all

[Edit – ONE GONG sound, hit almost exactrly the same, but recorded from, and within, different spaces for different resonation/timbre signatures.
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Much more of less.


So Windows 8 opens up to the Start screen. I have removed all panels, and as HippsieGypsie has kindly pointed out, I can use Winkey-D to access the desktop (which itself is empty), but I might first just use the Start screen for exactly what it is to me – a search platform that I type into. So, rather than going to the desktop first, I would type in “fire” and Enter, to open Firefox. Etc.

Q: I have 8. Is there any way to remove the large “Start” at the top left of the purple page? How about the entire User block at the top right?

Winkey-C – brings up time & date from anywhere, so you don't need the taskbar for that, and can auto-hide it.

Other ideas? Tricks? Studies in minimalism with Windows 8?

Thanks.
 

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A picture tells a thousand words... Despite this being a thread about Minimalism, I think that a few screenshots - perhaps actual and idealised (i.e. mucked about in an editor - a la Vogue photoshoot) would give readers a good idea of what you are trying to do, and how we might help - no?
What strikes me about typing onto a blank screen, with nothing appearing in front of me, is have I completely misspelled something I cannot even see?
 

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I feel so not understood.... : )

Below are the Desktop & Start screens respectively.

The bold question above is how to clean up the start screen. I've already got the desktop clean, as you can see. But I covered the "Start" and User name/image in the Start picture below using MS Paint.

The f
irst order of business is to get that, if possible.
 

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Sheit. Google-Bing shows “ZenKey” already exists. Perhaps he had the same thought: a completely empty screen, and run as much as possible from minimalist keystrokes – windows poping up only as needed - like little emerging thought clouds.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/zenkey.html

That link shows it was created just two months ago. (I have no relation with whoever that is.) I'm generally a big chicken on installing anything not open source – unless it's universally accepted as okay. TBD.

[Edit - Except his seems more about precluding the mouse. I love the mouse. But only when it can be more elegant than keystrokes....

I especially love a ThinkPad “Nub”. I've had a ThinkPad since the beginning.]
 

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Sleep Methods?

Alt-Tab over to empty desktop (~3) | Alt-F4 (2) | down arrow to sleep (~2) | Enter (1) [= ~8 keystrokes, or combos (mileage may vary)]

Ctrl-Alt-Delete (from anywhere – old school) (~2) | Mouse over and hit the Power button (~10 in keystroke time equivalency) | select Sleep (1) [= ~14]

Win-C (2) | mouse over and select Settings (~10) | select Power button (1) | select Sleep (1) [= ~14]

Win-I to control panel/setting charm (2) | select Power button (~10) | select Sleep (1) [= ~13]

Am I missing anything easier?

I don't have a friggin' sleep button on my wireless keyboard. Bummer. That would be [= 1].

Maybe you can map an F-Key to = “Sleep” in Windows across all apps?

Winkey-G looks unused. "Goodbye.." How do I map that?

Thanks
 

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Control Panel, Power Options, System Settings, Choose what the power button does (maybe "Change settings that are currently unavailable"), When I press the power button, on battery / plugged in and select sleep so the power button sends the machine to sleep (and wakes it up again).

To turn off, or restart, make shortcuts to the shutdown.exe program (hibernate or hybrid are here too, if your power configuration allows this) - Shawn Brink has made a tutorial http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/7025-shut-down-shortcut-create-windows-8-a.html?ltr=S with links to a bunch of related shortcuts at the end of the tutorial.

Any shortcut can have a CTRL+ALT+[key] keyboard shortcut allocated - it is in the properties of the shortcut (step 5 of the tutorial) Just click your cursor in the shortcut key box and type a letter, like "G", and the shortcut is CTRL+ALT+G
 

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I manually created a Brink Shutdown shortcut icon and pinned it to my Start menu. It works. But then I removed it quickly because it does not follow the path of Zen. The path of Zen has nothing on the Start menu, or the desktop, or the Taskbar. Nothingness. The path of Zen accomplishes everything via minimal keystrokes.

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So yeah, it goes against my nature to abandon the keyboard, but I changed my power button to “sleep”, per your direction.

So now I just reach down to the tower under the desk and zap her to sleep. Mission accomplished. One button.

But I feel so dirty. Unclean.

I would prefer to somehow assign the Win-G key combo to make the machine sleep - if anyone knows how to conjure that.
 

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First you must create the path of Zen, O Grasshopper, and name the folder Zen in which to place your shortcuts, and they will be clean. And thence you must seek guidance whereon you place the Folder of Zen, that it is in the path of your environment so that all will execute therein.

Young Padawan, if you would learn the mysteries of Powershell then you will become as invincible as the forgotten sages of MS-Dos and the ancient mysteries of Batchfile editing, having only Edlin as their weapon.

Yea, thou shalt become as mighty in stature as the dark lords of Linux, as they type in their dark terminals the runes of Bash.

It is said that a journey starts with an single footstep, and that footstep is placed on the desktop, since that path begins in light and ends in enlightenment. And on that desktop thou shalt place your shortcut to the path of Zen, and place it close to Recycle bin as a reminder that all must perish, that the circle of life is one with the path and with reincarnation. And if the sight of icons on your desktop offends thine eye, do not pluck it out but right-click the desktop, select view and uncheck "show desktop icons".
 

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    Motherboard
    inbuilt
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio on-board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    notebook
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST9500325AS
    Google drive 15GB
    Skydrive 25GB
    BT Cloud
    PSU
    external 20v
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    pretty good
    Keyboard
    inbuilt
    Mouse
    touchpad
    Internet Speed
    BT Infinity Unlimited - 80 up 20 down =70/16 really
    Browser
    Chrome Canary usually
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    no Start menu modifications
    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
Classic.

I feel so understood!!

Now how do I get Winkey-G to activate “Sleep”?

Create a batch file, located in a path directory, ….?

HOW?

Powershell me some instructions, oh blind master of the flying guillotine.

There shall not be shortcut icons. That would be like leaving footsteps upon the rice paper as Kwai Chang attempts to leave the Shaolin temple.
 

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Ask the great seer of the Google eyes command to sleep and be lucky for therein lies a temple of ['} superuser with such a request as yours, and great wisdom is imparted to those who seek within.

The mystery of wielding the winkey may reside in the powers of third parties, whose wisdom is not always freely given and such shortcuts may not be lightly taken.

Alas, My powers fail me as advancing morn approaches and I must seek the shelter of zzzzs. For you, a callow acolyte whose sun has barely set, the night is young, and the search for enlightenment must progress by you alone until you feel as weary as I, for your cup is as yet empty.
 

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    Motherboard
    inbuilt
    Memory
    4GB
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    ATI
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio on-board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    notebook
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST9500325AS
    Google drive 15GB
    Skydrive 25GB
    BT Cloud
    PSU
    external 20v
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    pretty good
    Keyboard
    inbuilt
    Mouse
    touchpad
    Internet Speed
    BT Infinity Unlimited - 80 up 20 down =70/16 really
    Browser
    Chrome Canary usually
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    no Start menu modifications
    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
Here is a trick to amuse you O insignificant neophyte. If the path is broken, only the wise know whence to follow. If the door cannot be seen, and the gatekeeper cannot be found, only those with the key shall enter.

Thou abhorrest the sight of shortcuts and their gaudy signposts. So be it. Thou hast a memory, which is yours alone. Use it well to cast a cloak of invisibility over that which repels you, but beware, the memory also trickest those who rely most heavily upon it. Therefore, like the grand sages of old, document your actions to safeguard against your frailties.

That that you despise the most, you must obtain mastery over. Let us create a shortcut on your desktop that gives you mastery over the very depths of the great spirit of WinOS, CMD.EXE. We shalt then empower the shortcut to do all possible magicks to its limits, and then cloak it so that none but yourself know its whereabouts nor its power. Likewise, a similar cloak may be used to hide a folder on a path to your innermost secrets.

Cast the common charm right-click in a place where none exists on your desktop, and select the element new by pressing w. Type the incantation cmd and cast the spell of <enter> twice. (If you have shielded the view of desktop icons, thou must remove the charm right-click, v, up, <enter>, else enter the realm of your desktop using the path of the file explorer to witness your works.)

When you espy the cmd icon it hath a black likeness to the console of DOS, but there the likeness ends. The console of DOS requires the incantation command in its stead. The differences between them are both subtle and great. Perform again the charm right-click, up, <enter>, then <alt>+d, <spacebar>, <enter> to add the potency of an administrator to cmd.

To cloak the icon in invisibility, select <alt>+c, type imageres.dll, <enter>, <tab>, <tab>, <right>, <right>, <right>, <enter>. Create a shortcut key <alt>+k and here you must make your choice, but for arguments sake, press = to create the shortcut key <ctrl>+<alt>+=. Apply and save then close the properties window.
The icon is invisible, only the shortcut remains. Let it be.
Rename the file with an invisible name. This is often accomplished with the charm of <Alt>+0160 on the numerical keypad with the num lock on, but there are darker means to that end:
alt0160.PNG

Having created the no-break space in lieu of a filename, an orphaned shortcut arrow sits on your desktop.
0shcut.PNG
Your task, O green Tadpole, is to discover the means to remove that last remnant of tangibility from the desktop, and all other shortcuts, with the help of the great grand master Brink on the Sevenforums.

Perhaps later, a lesson in environmental control may be in order, but now I must attend the tea ceremony.
 

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    BT Infinity Unlimited - 80 up 20 down =70/16 really
    Browser
    Chrome Canary usually
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    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
In the meantime I'll get the incense lit. :D
 

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In the meantime I'll get the incense lit. :D

Looks like I'm not the only one confused by this kung-fu-pooter thread. I can almost see David Carradine in the background as the tadpoles speak.:confused:
 

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LOL! Oh I'm not confused. This thread is taking on a whole new motif. "Computing in kung-fu prose". I'm digging it!

As soon as they get finished, I'll make the shortcut(s). :)
 

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LOL! Oh I'm not confused. This thread is taking on a whole new motif. "Computing in kung-fu prose". I'm digging it!

As soon as they get finished, I'll make the shortcut(s). :)

I wasn't being disrespectful. Admittedly, at first I thought Win8fait reminded me of someone else here awhile back.
Then I realized he is serious. I've been following it since because it is interesting. But they add a lot of confusion by using the kung-fu talk.

If they would make it simple by not making everyone decipher the kung-fu. I could see this as a popular thread with more members being interested if it, trying it, discovering and sharing shortcuts etc. with everyone.

I will look into it also but ...
 

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I thought it would be fun to play along, but wait until Win8fait returns, and see what happens. You are all welcome to ask for clarification of any points, and I will try to edit the posts to make them clearer where you find problems with my mock mystic verbiage.
 

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    4GB
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    Seagate ST9500325AS
    Google drive 15GB
    Skydrive 25GB
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    Laptop
    Cooling
    pretty good
    Keyboard
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    touchpad
    Internet Speed
    BT Infinity Unlimited - 80 up 20 down =70/16 really
    Browser
    Chrome Canary usually
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    no Start menu modifications
    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
I wasn't being disrespectful.

I wasn't either and I'm sure they won't take it that way. I really am liking it.

If they would make it simple by not making everyone decipher the kung-fu.

Not trying to put one over on you, but strange as it may seem, I understand it. :D

@ fafhrd

Like I said, I understand you. Nice added avatar for the thread mood BTW. :thumb:

I'm looking forward for this to continue. :)
 

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    Acer AL1917W A LCD
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    1440 X 900
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    350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
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    PSU
    Standard 250 watt
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    Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
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    Dual case fans + CPU fan
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    Acer Windows PS/2
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    IE11
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    Defender
    Other Info
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    AMD E- 300 APU with Radion HD Graphics 1.30GHz
    Motherboard
    inbuilt
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio on-board
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    notebook
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    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST9500325AS
    Google drive 15GB
    Skydrive 25GB
    BT Cloud
    PSU
    external 20v
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    pretty good
    Keyboard
    inbuilt
    Mouse
    touchpad
    Internet Speed
    BT Infinity Unlimited - 80 up 20 down =70/16 really
    Browser
    Chrome Canary usually
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    no Start menu modifications
    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
Does it have to be a gong? I'm kind of partial to this one. It's a h8er booting up 8.1. :p

[video=youtube;gIYXiJKCd1I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIYXiJKCd1I[/video]
 

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    2GB (max upgrade)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
    Sound Card
    Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
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    Acer AL1917W A LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1440 X 900
    Hard Drives
    350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
    Thumb drives
    PSU
    Standard 250 watt
    Case
    Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
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    Dual case fans + CPU fan
    Keyboard
    Acer Windows PS/2
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    Wireless Microsoft Arc
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    54mbp/s
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    IE11
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    Office Pro 2013 / Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone 8.1DP GDR1
Huge thanks for the wonderful contributions, guys, but may I gently remind both David B. and HippsieG. of the minimalist sentiments of the OP's thread.

I will replay HGs sound track a few more times (ad nauseam springs to mind) to see if it can attune with my zen (which is so sensitive it can hear the sound of half a hand clapping on the wings of a butterfly in Venezuela, and watch the propagation of the influence of the unfortunate strike until a tropical Indian Ocean typhoon emerges to eventually dissipate without landfall, some 17 years later.)

Whilst I contemplate this simple matter, and flagellate my unworthy torso with vines from the grapple plant to gain a higher level of understanding, I shall dwell upon David Bs solution to the sleep problem, with my eyes closed so I shall not be distracted, nor tempted, by the richness of the colours of his properties dialog for the Sleep solution. I shall also concentrate on the higher path to growing a third middle finger, having only been blessed with two.
I am soooo... unworthy.

Hey, post 600 - only 66 left before you know what!
 
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    Motherboard
    inbuilt
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio on-board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    notebook
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST9500325AS
    Google drive 15GB
    Skydrive 25GB
    BT Cloud
    PSU
    external 20v
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    pretty good
    Keyboard
    inbuilt
    Mouse
    touchpad
    Internet Speed
    BT Infinity Unlimited - 80 up 20 down =70/16 really
    Browser
    Chrome Canary usually
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    no Start menu modifications
    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
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