Solved How do I save to folders without permissions messages?

MBernard

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I'm on a new laptop running Windows 8 Pro, and I'm running into permission issues. I just created an icon (using Axialis Icon workshop), and tried to save it to a folder which I myself created. But I got this message:

C:\Program Files\Icons\IN-USE\GS.ico
You don’t have permission to save in this location.
Contact the administrator to obtain permission.

Would you like to save in the My Pictures folder instead?

No, I wouldn't like to save in My Pictures. I never use it. How can I get permission to save to the folder I want? I'm a sole user; I'm a member of administrators; I've tried (unsuccessfully so far) to give myself permission to run all programs without being nagged.

I suspect that taking ownership of the C:\Program Files might do the trick, but it seems like an extreme measure. Should I simply follow the steps in Brink's tutorial 'How to Allow or Deny Access Permisions to Users and Groups in Windows 8'?

Thanks

Mary
 

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For security reasons, Windows does not allow normal user accounts to write to Program Files. This prevents many malware type applications from being able to take control over system files and applications. It's just not a good idea to store things in this subfolder, unless you are installing an application.

You should instead, save your icons to your user folder. Creat an Icons folder under C:\Users\(your user name)\Icons

Everything under this folder is writeable by you, and it will get indexed by the search service as well as backed up if you do backups.

If you work with the OS, and store your files in the places that that are designed for you to store them, then you will have a lot fewer problems than if you fight it. You have to remember that the OS is trying to both create a secure environment that does not allow malware to do things, and allow you the freedom to do what you need to do.
 

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Permissions and W8

I am willing not to store stuff in Program Files; your reasons are persuasive; but I'm not willing to store data in subfolders of Users. I have been using various Microsoft OSs since 1986, as a writer and photographer, and I have nearly 2 TB of data files alone. They won't fit onto my 300 MB SSD C: drive.

Would I be wrong in detecting a touch of impatience or condescension in the sentence, 'If you work with the OS, and store your files in the places that that are designed for you to store them, then you will have a lot fewer problems than if you fight it.'? I have posted to the Windows 7 forum a number of times. This was my first posting to the Windows 8 forum, and your reply is the first on either forum that has not seemed entirely courteous.

I am very sorry to make this criticism; but if I were a new and naive user/forum member, I would probably never ask another question. As it is, I'll ask another right away!

Best wishes

Mary
 

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Didn't actually post another message, because I solved the problem myself.

Mary
 

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For security reasons, Windows does not allow normal user accounts to write to Program Files. This prevents many malware type applications from being able to take control over system files and applications. It's just not a good idea to store things in this subfolder, unless you are installing an application.

You should instead, save your icons to your user folder. Creat an Icons folder under C:\Users\(your user name)\Icons

Everything under this folder is writeable by you, and it will get indexed by the search service as well as backed up if you do backups.

If you work with the OS, and store your files in the places that that are designed for you to store them, then you will have a lot fewer problems than if you fight it. You have to remember that the OS is trying to both create a secure environment that does not allow malware to do things, and allow you the freedom to do what you need to do.

I am willing not to store stuff in Program Files; your reasons are persuasive; but I'm not willing to store data in subfolders of Users. I have been using various Microsoft OSs since 1986, as a writer and photographer, and I have nearly 2 TB of data files alone. They won't fit onto my 300 MB SSD C: drive.

Would I be wrong in detecting a touch of impatience or condescension in the sentence, 'If you work with the OS, and store your files in the places that that are designed for you to store them, then you will have a lot fewer problems than if you fight it.'? I have posted to the Windows 7 forum a number of times. This was my first posting to the Windows 8 forum, and your reply is the first on either forum that has not seemed entirely courteous.

I am very sorry to make this criticism; but if I were a new and naive user/forum member, I would probably never ask another question. As it is, I'll ask another right away!

Best wishes

Mary

Welcome to our group Mary.
I've read Mystere's resonse several times and didn't see any condescension in his summation about the design of Windows storage for Security & Safety for both you & your computer.
I think he was just trying to emphasize his information.
 

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You should mark Solved. Sharing the solution may help someone else in the future.
 

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I am willing not to store stuff in Program Files; your reasons are persuasive; but I'm not willing to store data in subfolders of Users. I have been using various Microsoft OSs since 1986, as a writer and photographer, and I have nearly 2 TB of data files alone. They won't fit onto my 300 MB SSD C: drive.

I'm confused then.. Why is it ok to store it on your C: drive if it's in program files, but not if it's in users?

Would I be wrong in detecting a touch of impatience or condescension in the sentence, 'If you work with the OS, and store your files in the places that that are designed for you to store them, then you will have a lot fewer problems than if you fight it.'? I have posted to the Windows 7 forum a number of times. This was my first posting to the Windows 8 forum, and your reply is the first on either forum that has not seemed entirely courteous.

No condescension, it's just that a lot of people seem to have the opinion of "Damnit, i'll store stuff wherever I want, it's my computer". And that's fine, you can. Just understand that if you fight the OS, it's going to be a lot harder than if you work with it.

There are other places to store data if you don't want it for a specific user, that tends to get stored under \Users\Public

If you want to store it on another drive, then you can create a folder on that other drive and add it as a library, or you can even move your user folder to the other drive. There are many options.
 

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Remove inherited permissions & give implicit permissions to each user.
 

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>>I'm confused then.. Why is it ok to store it on your C: drive if it's in program files, but not if it's in users?

Hi Mystere

Sorry if I misinterpreted your first message.

Answer to your question is: simply habit. Way back, it was okay to store files in prog files, and I've always had one computer running an earlier OS than the rest...now it's 1 with Windows 8, 2 with W7 and 1 with XP. I try to keep the folder structure the same in all 4, so that data backup routines don't have to be rewritten. I'm going to follow your advice and move fmy icons folder/subfolders from prog files, but not to Users, because I really dislike looking at a folder structure that has subfolders called music, Pictures and Videos, none of which I use, but none of which I can remove, no matter how hard I try!

>>you can even move your user folder to the other drive.<<

Do you mean I could move the whole shebang, with Local and Local Low and Roaming and all that, to another drive, and the system would still work?! Not that I'm going to, I hasten to say, but I'm stunned.

Mary
 

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Hi David Bailey
>>Remove inherited permissions & give implicit permissions to each user.<<

What are implicit permissions? I only know inherited and explicit. are they new in Windows 8?

Mary
 

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Answer to your question is: simply habit. Way back, it was okay to store files in prog files, and I've always had one computer running an earlier OS than the rest...now it's 1 with Windows 8, 2 with W7 and 1 with XP. I try to keep the folder structure the same in all 4, so that data backup routines don't have to be rewritten. I'm going to follow your advice and move fmy icons folder/subfolders from prog files, but not to Users, because I really dislike looking at a folder structure that has subfolders called music, Pictures and Videos, none of which I use, but none of which I can remove, no matter how hard I try!

You can delete those folders. You just have to remove them from the library first.

Do you mean I could move the whole shebang, with Local and Local Low and Roaming and all that, to another drive, and the system would still work?! Not that I'm going to, I hasten to say, but I'm stunned.

Yes, follow this guide.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4275-user-profiles-relocate-another-partition-disk.html
 

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>>You can delete those folders. You just have to remove them from the library first.<<

Oh, my! Wonderful. I've done it. Thank you so much for the steer.

I looked at the link abt moving Users folder, not because I seriously wanted to, just out of interest. I wouldn't be able to anyhow, at least not following the route in the tutorial, because I upgraded to Pro from straight 8, and the method doesn't work with upgrades. But it's nice to know it can be done....

All the best

Mary
 

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