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In Advanced Startup there is the option to boot from a removable device.

It has an icon for a usb drive & a disk, which I assume means CD or DVD.

The question is, is this option the same as setting the boot order in the BIOS ?

I tried it just to test it & when restarting, the process hesitated like it was looking for a removable device.
I had no device inserted.

Then my computer continued to boot like always.

This intrigues me.

EDIT--

I was wondering if choosing this option would be a one time event or if it would change the boot order permanently ?
 

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Hi David,

Wow, you certainly are a digger; yes? Now first off, please understand that there is no technical merit behind my response but I know one thing for sure. The methodolgy you describe will not permanently change the boot order in the BIOS. Moreover, I believe that Windows remains in complete control of a restart, similar to when you are going through the installation process, and there are several reboots required. So, IMHO, I don't think the BIOS boot order ever enters into the picture using the methods you describe. However, I have been wrong many times before and it wouldn't surprise me to be wrong again. So, let's see if anyone else responds with their take on you question.

Cheers!
 

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@David Bailey: I still have a pending rep set aside for that great DDD fix you provided for McDougle. So, what's DDD mean? That is the new nickname I created for your suggested fix and I now refer to it as DDD which is short for "Dave's DISM Dazzler."

Cheers!
 

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It's my opinion that it is a one time event.

I've read posts where people say they can't get their usb drive to boot.

It would seem they do not know about this option.

I figured starting a thread on the subject might provide information that would be useful to people.
& satisfy my curiosity as well.
 

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@David Bailey: I still have a pending rep set aside for that great DDD fix you provided for McDougle. So, what's DDD mean? That is the new nickname I created for your suggested fix and I now refer to it as DDD which is short for "Dave's DISM Dazzler."

Cheers!

I am honored. Thank you. :)
 

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If I press "advanced Startup" all it does is reboot my computer. It does not show me any extended boot options, at the time I press it, or when the system comes back up. But I have old systems, you have to have UEFI to have this work?
 

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If I press "advanced Startup" all it does is reboot my computer. It does not show me any extended boot options, at the time I press it, or when the system comes back up. But I have old systems, you have to have UEFI to have this work?

I have UEFI.
It might be needed.
Someone else may respond with a better answer.
Like BRINK. :)

I can't test it on an older system because I don't have one.

EDIT--

Is yours like this:

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For Windows 8 Pre-install PC's, the USB/CD/DVD software would need to fully supports Windows 8, uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot, to boot.
Same as with the UEFI/BIOS firmware, One Time Boot Menu.
 

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Could you elaborate on, "the USB/CD/DVD software" ?

Would that be software already on the computer ?

When I made a backup on a usb drive the usb drive was formatted.
I copied the recovery partition.
 

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Software using WinPE4 boot disk will boot:

Windows 8 x64 DVD/USB

Windows 8 x64 Start up Repair CD/DVD/USB

Paragon 12 paid for has support for Windows 8 uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot, & is signed by Microsoft .

PARAGON Software Group - partition manager, drive backup, hard disk partitioning

SSR Desktop Edition has support for Windows 8 uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot, & is signed by Microsoft .

* Now Released * Symantec System Recovery 2013 | Symantec Connect Community




Software using WinPE3 boot disk will not boot:

Windows 7 x64 DVD/USB

Windows 7 x64 Start up Repair CD/DVD

Paragon 11

Norton Ghost 15.

This is a bit out of date.
http://www.eightforums.com/vip-lounge/13606-will-your-live-cd-boot-secure-boot.html
 

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Thanks.
Now I know my usb backup will work, ( if I ever need it ) .
 

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I have the exact same "Advanced Startup" button that David Bailey has, it simply doesn't DO anything, except reboot the system.

If I stuck a Bootable USB stick or drive in, the system boots to it first, automatically. Any Bootable CD/DVD I stick in the Optical Drive, boots first.

Remember I said once that I have a Windows 7 HD and a Windows 8 HD, because I installed Windows 7 first and 8 second, and because Windows 7 is on an IDE drive, the system has to be booted from the Windows 7 drive, or else it does not see the Bootloader. But on my other system, I can boot from my C and D drives, both are SATA.
 

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I have the exact same "Advanced Startup" button that David Bailey has, it simply doesn't DO anything, except reboot the system.

That's odd.

Mine works good.

I'm sorry I can't offer you any advice about yours. :(
 

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@David Bailey: I obviously did not access the Advanced Startup as you showed with your follow-up picture; however, options like change your PC firmware settings should boot you directly into your BIOS.
 

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@David Bailey: I obviously did not access the Advanced Startup as you showed with your follow-up picture; however, options like change your PC firmware settings should boot you directly into your BIOS.

I have tested and confirmed that a UEFI machine, showing the Advanced Options to Change PC Firmware Settings, (if selected) will boot directly into the BIOS. Moreover, the boot to the BIOS is almost immediate. I'm a bit surprised you just didn't test it and see.
 

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@David Bailey: I obviously did not access the Advanced Startup as you showed with your follow-up picture; however, options like change your PC firmware settings should boot you directly into your BIOS.

I have tested and confirmed that a UEFI machine, showing the Advanced Options to Change PC Firmware Settings, (if selected) will boot directly into the BIOS. Moreover, the boot to the BIOS is almost immediate. I'm a bit surprised you just didn't test it and see.

I had the removable booting device on my mind.

I appreciate your info though.
I've tried every F key on my keyboard & none of them do anything on reboot.-(thanks microsoft!)

It'll give me something else to play with. :)

I do use BootUI Tuner though.
On every startup I have the option to go directly to the advanced startup options. :)
Very handy.
 

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In Advanced Startup there is the option to boot from a removable device.

It has an icon for a usb drive & a disk, which I assume means CD or DVD.

The question is, is this option the same as setting the boot order in the BIOS ?

I tried it just to test it & when restarting, the process hesitated like it was looking for a removable device.
I had no device inserted.

Then my computer continued to boot like always.

This intrigues me.

EDIT--

I was wondering if choosing this option would be a one time event or if it would change the boot order permanently ?

I guess I missed that specific concern in your opening statement where you made reference to either a usb drive or a disk. Unfortunately I didn't read every response in detail so maybe that is where you switched your concern to a specific usb boot only issue.
 

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David Bailey said:
I had the removable booting device on my mind.

I appreciate your info though.
I've tried every F key on my keyboard & none of them do anything on reboot.-(thanks microsoft!)

As Gateway are made by ACER.

Enabling the boot device menu

Acer said:
On most Acer systems, you can use the F12 key on boot to select the drive or network from which loading the operating system. In case the F12 option does not work, you may need to enable this function.

SOLUTION

Enabling the F12 function:

1.Power on the system. As soon as the first logo screen appears, immediately press the F2 key, or the DEL key if you have a desktop, to enter the BIOS.
2.Press the right arrow key to select Main.
3.Use the arrow keys to navigate to F12 Boot Menu, and press ENTER.
4.Select Enabled, and press ENTER.
5.Press the F10 key to save changes and restart the system.
 

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David Bailey said:
I had the removable booting device on my mind.

I appreciate your info though.
I've tried every F key on my keyboard & none of them do anything on reboot.-(thanks microsoft!)

As Gateway are made by ACER.

Enabling the boot device menu

Acer said:
On most Acer systems, you can use the F12 key on boot to select the drive or network from which loading the operating system. In case the F12 option does not work, you may need to enable this function.

SOLUTION

Enabling the F12 function:

1.Power on the system. As soon as the first logo screen appears, immediately press the F2 key, or the DEL key if you have a desktop, to enter the BIOS.
2.Press the right arrow key to select Main.
3.Use the arrow keys to navigate to F12 Boot Menu, and press ENTER.
4.Select Enabled, and press ENTER.
5.Press the F10 key to save changes and restart the system.

Thank you !

Pressing the Delete key worked.
I never tried that before.

I enabled the F12 key.
It works now.

I really appreciate the help. :dinesh:
 

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