SMART Event on RAID

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I have a second hard drive on my HP DV7 laptop. It's a 750GB Hitachi.

Last week I started getting a SMART event and it would ask if I wanted to check the disk. Now every time I start the computer, it's running chkdsk and found a bunch of bad clusters. Also Some of my directories are missing, yet the space available remains the same, so its not deleting the directories and freeing up the space.

I'm recovering the data tonight but I have a few questions:

1) My data recovery software has the option to skip bad directories. Should I do this? And if I do not skip this, will this simply transfer the errors to the hard drive that I'm recovering to.

2) If I clean and then reformat, will the disk be usable? Or should I just junk it and get a new one.

3) Will chkdsk fix it? Or should I reformat?

Thanks for your time and attention and help!

Jim
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
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    HP ENVY 15t-j100 Quad Edition CTO Notebook PC
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    Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz
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    16 GB
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    1TB Toshiba Hybrid Drive
If chkdsk comes up with errors frequently, then something is causing errors frequently.
Most common is a hard drive failure - so run this free diagnostic: Hard Drive Diagnostic Procedure

1) Recovering bad sectors will recover the contents of the bad sectors to your transfer drive - it will not make the sectors bad.
Depending on the size of the bad directories, they may take up quite a bit of room. But the alternative is not having the data contained in them.

2) The disk may be reusable - but I'd rather rely on the results of the diagnostic tests I mentioned above. Sometimes the diagnostic tests will make repairs. I don't like this (as the repairs don't usually last that long) and usually suggest a new hard drive for any errors found by the diagnostics. If you choose to use the repair feature, just remember that the errors can pop back up at any time - so be prepared to do it all over again.

3) If chkdsk runs at boot every time and hasn't permanently fixed it yet - I doubt that running it again will help.
 

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Thanks for your reply. That answers my question.

My main concern was transferring the disk error to my external hard drive when I clone the drive.

Thanks
Jim
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 15t-j100 Quad Edition CTO Notebook PC
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz
    Memory
    16 GB
    Hard Drives
    1TB Toshiba Hybrid Drive
One final question. When my computer starts up I have recovery and maintenance options. One of these is to "reset disk to non-RAID."

It's not an SSD, simply a second hard drive. Is RAID preferable?

Thanks,

Jim
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 15t-j100 Quad Edition CTO Notebook PC
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz
    Memory
    16 GB
    Hard Drives
    1TB Toshiba Hybrid Drive
Just FYI - I don't like RAID. I tried it with a hardware RAID card and 4 10,000 rpm Velociraptor drives when Win7 first came out.
I had constant problems and it kept telling me that I had a bad hard drive.
I finally gave up, reset the the disks to non-RAID and have been happy ever since.

Be aware that resetting the disks to non-RAID will likely involve you having to reinstall Windows.
It will delete everything on the hard drives - so backup your important data also.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung/NP780
    CPU
    Came with the laptop (i7 of some sort)
    Motherboard
    Pretty sure that it has one, but haven't checked inside the case!
    Memory
    upgraded to 12 gB from 8 gB
    Graphics Card(s)
    has switchable - Intel/ATI - Used wrong drivers, now ATI card is inop :( Will have to fix it soon!
    Sound Card
    I'm nearly deaf, so this isn't used often
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touchscreen on laptop/32" Toshiba on HDMI (laid the Sharp TV on a mouse and cracked the screen!)
    Screen Resolution
    800x600
    Hard Drives
    One Samsung 1tB drive - 5400 rpm. Gonna switch to a 7200/10000 rpm or an SSD (if I can find $500 for a 1tB SSD!)
    - Switched to 500 gB Samsung 840 series SSD - WOW!!!
    PSU
    Why do we ask this for laptops?
    Case
    Silver with a neat Samsung logo
    Cooling
    sub-par, gotta get around to working on it soon Worked on it - still sub-par! :(
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural - the same one I've used since it orignally came out around 1995
    Mouse
    no Mouse - Trackball!!!!
    Internet Speed
    too slow when I'm waiting for a download to finish
    Browser
    Yes, I use this (Firefox mostly, w/IE next most)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
    Other Info
    I'm handsome and a snappy dresser :0)
Thanks for the reply. Oddly enough disk 0, my c: is not RAID.

Will it restore my c: as well?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 15t-j100 Quad Edition CTO Notebook PC
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz
    Memory
    16 GB
    Hard Drives
    1TB Toshiba Hybrid Drive
For some reason unknown to us mere mortals, some of the OEM's decided to use RAID on individual drives.
I'm not a RAID expert, but from what I know - breaking a RAID array will only affect those drives involved in the array.
But, as always, be sure to backup your stuff "just in case".
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung/NP780
    CPU
    Came with the laptop (i7 of some sort)
    Motherboard
    Pretty sure that it has one, but haven't checked inside the case!
    Memory
    upgraded to 12 gB from 8 gB
    Graphics Card(s)
    has switchable - Intel/ATI - Used wrong drivers, now ATI card is inop :( Will have to fix it soon!
    Sound Card
    I'm nearly deaf, so this isn't used often
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touchscreen on laptop/32" Toshiba on HDMI (laid the Sharp TV on a mouse and cracked the screen!)
    Screen Resolution
    800x600
    Hard Drives
    One Samsung 1tB drive - 5400 rpm. Gonna switch to a 7200/10000 rpm or an SSD (if I can find $500 for a 1tB SSD!)
    - Switched to 500 gB Samsung 840 series SSD - WOW!!!
    PSU
    Why do we ask this for laptops?
    Case
    Silver with a neat Samsung logo
    Cooling
    sub-par, gotta get around to working on it soon Worked on it - still sub-par! :(
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural - the same one I've used since it orignally came out around 1995
    Mouse
    no Mouse - Trackball!!!!
    Internet Speed
    too slow when I'm waiting for a download to finish
    Browser
    Yes, I use this (Firefox mostly, w/IE next most)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
    Other Info
    I'm handsome and a snappy dresser :0)
If for some reason the Disk comes up with too many errors for those utilities to fix, you can use Vivard Smart Remap and it will repair the drive regardless of now many errors there are- It's on the Dos Utilities for Hard Drive on Hiren's Boot CD.

That is my only reservation for running RAID arrays - Especially JBOD arrays, if one drive goes bad its an instant data loss unless you can repair the drive. To do that you have to treat it like a single disk, and run the external drive scanner. Some RAID hardware comes with utilities that can scan and repair the array from within the array, even allowing you to replace a bad drive if need be - But it has been a while since I had to use any of those, I don't remember if it was Promise, Via or something else, there was a utility that ran on the OS which fixed my drives. If this is a Smart error, you would need to see what it indicates, and then run that software from within the OS if you can.
 

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    AMD 4400+/4200+
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    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
Also, lately I have been using those SiL dual SATA PCI cards, which run as RAID even if you only attach one drive. The Disk shows up on the Controller Firmware, but as far as the OS is concerned, if's just a single drive.

You should just use Acronis or other Partition Copy program and move your System partition to a good drive.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
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