Classic Shell works for me and with the latest version, I haven't had any Windows 8 update issues. Anything, has to be better than the MPI.
For example, people wouldn't be desperately adding replacement Start Menus, if Microsoft hadn't got rid of the built-in one.
I have little faith that the current Microsoft crew will be able to fix the "existing problems".
They are more likely to make them worse, or create a stack of new ones (like non-transferable Office licences).
A few hours after I started running StartIsBack I was so impressed I bought a serial key. Am now running Win8 Pro OEM installed from shop bought DVD on my top end machine and it absolutely flies!
I don't mind the bare look of the folders, etc. Quite happy to sacrifice aesthetics for speed any day. All my folders regardless of content are set to list view so only the name is visible ... no details and no navigation pane.
Aside from a few initial hiccups, like Revo Uninstaller had to be run in compatibility mode Vista or it froze when searching for left over registry entries/files ... aside from that there's no going back to Win7. Shuts down in 2 seconds flat ... unbelievable! Excel docs on Win7 took about 15 seconds to open. With W8 they open in 1 - 2 secs max. Big plus for me as I do a lot of work on Excel/Word. Intel do not support my DX58SO2 extreme board for Win8, but it runs fine with generic drivers loaded by W8. The only thing that won't run is the RaLink WiFi wireless adaptor which came with the board and also runs Blue Tooth. Work around was to buy a Blue Tooth and Wireless USB dongle. All good.
I still never use Metro, but not worried it's there. Have used it as alternative start screen just to know what it does, and can navigate it fairly quickly, but still prefer to simply have everything on the desktop ... much more efficient IMHO!
i dont thing anyone uses the apps screen other than to click on the desktop one, if they have not install direct to desktop software.
If I had Ex7forW8 set to boot to Explorer 7 shell desktop, it would take up to 30 seconds for the spinning circle activity icon to disappear. Then if I opened any program/app it would take another 30 seconds to initialize on first being opened.
If Ex7forW8 was set to boot to Explorer 8 shell, it would boot to Metro, and I would click Desktop, and it would open instantly and the spinning activity icon would take about 15 seconds to disappear. However, when I now opened an app/program from the desktop in Explorer 8 shell mode, the programs snapped open instantly.
This only happened after the last batch of updates.
Since installing StatIsBack the desktop is always running in Explorer 8 shell whether I boot to Metro or straight to the desktop. Once on desktop, the spinning circle takes about 12 seconds to disappear, but any program/app snaps open instantly on being initialized ... whether I boot direct to desktop or go through Metro to desktop.
As mentioned in an earlier post, Win7 on the same machine with dedicated Intel drivers, would take about 15 secs to open Xcel spreadsheet/Word documents. On W8, Xcel and Word open in 1 - 2 secs. You'll have to take my word for it, but I'm not saying it to promote W8 as I was one of W8's biggest critics. And my main criticism was that it wouldn't boot straight to desktop, and had no legacy start menu. Since those problems are fixed I'm very impressed with the speed, which is not surprising since it had to be stripped out to work on mobile phone/tablets, etc.
I just compared Excel between Windows 7 and Windows 8; same file, same machine. For both, the first time you open Excel from cold, it takes about 8 sec to open and then subsequent openings takes between 1-2 sec. I find this with all of my programs, be it anything Office, Adobe etc, the initial load always takes longer, be it Windows 8 or Windows 7, at least on my PCs.
Mind you, with 12GB RAM, 3 SLI linked graphic cards, and extreme mobo/CPU it should be fast. The reason it's important is I often have to copy/paste part of a spread sheet to 4 or 5 duplicate copies, and to wait 15 secs for each other copy on external media to open is a real pain in the butt.
But here's the weird thing. I'm now running Win7 on my backup machine, and Excel, Word both open in 5 secs from cold start, and instant on 2nd start. And it only has 8GB RAM, onboard graphics, and mid-range mobo/CPU. So go figure????
I have a love/hate relationship with PCs. When anything goes wrong I hate them! If there was a code violation for swearing when I'm sitting in front of a PC, I'd be serving a life sentence! I'm not endowed with the virtue of patience! Perseverance is another matter. I'll sit there all night till I get a problem fixed, albeit while turning the air blue! Periodically I vow I'll never boot another PC as long as I live. But after a short time clean and sober, as they say, my addiction kicks in and I'm back in front of the bewitching mystical lights of the monitor.
Last edited by Mustang; 26 Feb 2013 at 21:17.
I'm only running conventional spinning disks on my system as well, so that will slow things down a tad.
@ Ray: Yeah that would definitely make a big difference. Am running SATA3 SSD on both machines and can never go back to spinners. Can't understand why Win7 opens programs faster on backup machine than super duper Flagship? Computers ... Aaaagggghhhh!