Enough Is Enough!

Max Peck

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Just spent the day yesterday building my machine back up to Win7 Ultimate from scratch. I'm done with "8" for the duration. Latest problem: hard crashing when more than one Metro app open with busy desktop.

Sorry guys ... this thing just ain't an upgrade. I've got better things to do than fool with a tablet O/S on my desktop. It's been fun.

Wow ... I forgot how much I liked Aero Glass!

-Max :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
gosh, to bad you had so many issues ,i cant think of any issues with my install ,oh well maybe you'll have better luck with win9
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win8.1.1 enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Hinze57
    CPU
    AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
    Motherboard
    gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
    Memory
    4gig ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radon hd5000 Series
    Sound Card
    onboard realtek hd
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    128gig ssd Kingston
    80gig WD 10000 rpm spinner
    Case
    micro
    Keyboard
    microsoft curve 200
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless M215
    Internet Speed
    high speed 20
    Browser
    ie 11
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    updated enterprise apr 2/14
I've been noticing this more and more, a pattern if you will, with retail desktops. As far as upgrading the OS or clean installing on these retail PC's. Anybody else see this or is it just me.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X 4 965 BE
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
    Memory
    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD XFX HD Radeon 6790D
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2l Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB w/OS
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB data storage
    PSU
    Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
    Case
    Thermaltake OverSeer RX 1 fulltower
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510
    Mouse
    Razor DeathAdder 3.5

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
I have to ask: did you update your drivers?

Yup. Been doing this awhile. Just not worth the trouble. Not an upgrade to me.

-Max
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
I've been noticing this more and more, a pattern if you will, with retail desktops. As far as upgrading the OS or clean installing on these retail PC's. Anybody else see this or is it just me.

When I upgraded my girlfriend's laptop, Asus UX31E, I found that the upgrade assistant did very little for the drivers and it was all sorts of crappy. Cleaning up the driver issue and loading fresh ones seemed to fix it right up.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8, Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z210
    Internet Speed
    25mbps
Well you gave it a try! (Or at least I hope you got a chance to try anyways).
I have no problem with people skipping out on an OS because of their preferences or compatibility issues after trying it out.
I still have a laptop with windows 7 because it had issues with windows 8. It doesn't bother me,
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    N/A
    CPU
    AMD FX 6300
    Motherboard
    GYGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 Rev 3.0
    Memory
    24GB DDR3 (4GB/4GB/8GB/8GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD 6850
    Sound Card
    Integrated (Realtek HD Audio)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X 19" monitors
    Screen Resolution
    4580 x 900
    Hard Drives
    WD 80GB
    WD 640GB
    WD 1,000GB
    WD 4,000GB
    PSU
    Rosewill Hive-650
    Case
    Antec 300 V2
    Cooling
    Stock Cooling
    Keyboard
    Saitek Eclipse II
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    D: 60Mbps U: 5Mbps
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    I also have a hub for 6 extra usb port AC powered.
    Microsoft LifeCam 720P
    HP LaserJet Pro M1212NF
    2 x 8 Port GB Switches
    1 X Netgear Router Netgear WNDR3700 v2 W/ DD-WRT
    and Much more
actually i have duel boot with win7& 8 and winxp in Orical VM l setup ,just in case i get the win8 blues
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win8.1.1 enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Hinze57
    CPU
    AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
    Motherboard
    gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
    Memory
    4gig ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radon hd5000 Series
    Sound Card
    onboard realtek hd
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    128gig ssd Kingston
    80gig WD 10000 rpm spinner
    Case
    micro
    Keyboard
    microsoft curve 200
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless M215
    Internet Speed
    high speed 20
    Browser
    ie 11
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    updated enterprise apr 2/14
Areo Glass is the weirdest looking thing to me now. It's like..... comparing Windows xp to Windows 7, it's weird! Why is everything glowing?....

To me, I notice it's more of a distraction after using Windows 8, without flaw, for a while now. Microsoft has been trying to remove focus on window chrome since the inception of Windows Longhorn/vista and TOTALLY screwed the pooch on that. Every time I see a screenshot of 7 or use it, I ALWAYS, without fail look at the window chrome first over the window content itself.

Odd.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Well you gave it a try! (Or at least I hope you got a chance to try anyways).
I have no problem with people skipping out on an OS because of their preferences or compatibility issues after trying it out.
I still have a laptop with windows 7 because it had issues with windows 8. It doesn't bother me,

I think the bottom line here is that I just don't care for the thing. I had it running reasonably stable (aside from the hard lockups that happened once every day or so) but I just felt like I was running it because it was the latest thing. After all the time I used it I never needed the Metro at all ... the most I did with it was play solitaire or look at a few of my pictures; both things I could do just as easily at the desktop. I'm not planning to buy a Windows tablet either so the whole thing just stopped making any kind of sense.

Se la vie ...

-Max
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
Well you gave it a try! (Or at least I hope you got a chance to try anyways).
I have no problem with people skipping out on an OS because of their preferences or compatibility issues after trying it out.
I still have a laptop with windows 7 because it had issues with windows 8. It doesn't bother me,

I think the bottom line here is that I just don't care for the thing. I had it running reasonably stable (aside from the hard lockups that happened once every day or so) but I just felt like I was running it because it was the latest thing. After all the time I used it I never needed the Metro at all ... the most I did with it was play solitaire or look at a few of my pictures; both things I could do just as easily at the desktop. I'm not planning to buy a Windows tablet either so the whole thing just stopped making any kind of sense.

Se la vie ...

-Max
C'est.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Would you consider using Windows 8 next time with a touch enabled mouse? I hear it makes the user experience MUCH better, also I use one and it makes the user experience MUCH better. :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
la vie!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win8 pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Computer 1 of 4
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4A78LT-M LE
    Memory
    4GB Kit (2x2GB)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 18"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    PSU
    Cheapo
    Internet Speed
    30mb
    Other Info
    Computer 2 :~ Dell Inspiron - 1x 350gb & 1x 250gb - 6GB Memory - Win 7 | Computer 3 :~ Samsung 355v5C Notebook - 6Gb Mem - Win8 2Core| Computer 4:~ Samsung 355v5C Notebook - 6Gb Mem - Win8 4Core
There must be something wrong with me, I've installed it on a Netbook, had to install the Windows 7 drivers, ran like a charm. Installed it on 3 other PC's no problem, installed it on another one, had to put Windows 7 drivers on it, now no problem.

I've got Windows 8 Pro running perfectly on 4 PC's, would never even think of going back to Windows 7.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP
Discovered today when playing with a desktop at work with Windows 8 that you cannot run XP Mode with the Windows 8 license like you could with Windows 7. That kinda stinks, as I like having the fast and easy, and very small preactivated and ready to go version of XP for quick testing of things. Not a showstopper, but certainly a let down.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Did you get the memo? xp is dead.

Although I've heard Windows 8 has pretty impressive program comparability support, at least for some elder games.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
There must be something wrong with me, I've installed it on a Netbook, had to install the Windows 7 drivers, ran like a charm. Installed it on 3 other PC's no problem, installed it on another one, had to put Windows 7 drivers on it, now no problem.

I've got Windows 8 Pro running perfectly on 4 PC's, would never even think of going back to Windows 7.

X2! I've got it running on all three of our laptops.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
Would you consider using Windows 8 next time with a touch enabled mouse? I hear it makes the user experience MUCH better, also I use one and it makes the user experience MUCH better. :)

At this point, no, I don't think so. There just isn't any functionality that I need in the Metro GUI. It wasn't that I couldn't get around the Metro, I had no problems with the mouse interface. I just don't like the implementation, that's all. The crashes were just the final straw. I didn't go a single day since I installed the thing where I didn't consider retooling back to Win7.

No harm done. I've seen it and used it enough to know that it just ain't for me.

-Max
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
Would you consider using Windows 8 next time with a touch enabled mouse? I hear it makes the user experience MUCH better, also I use one and it makes the user experience MUCH better. :)

Hell no. At this point there is not good use for this rubbish OS.

Now now ... let's not take it quite that far, OK? It's not "rubbish" and I haven't said anything even remotely resembling such. Aside from the fact that I had a couple of annoying technical issues (besides the crashes that kept happening) the system just wasn't for me, that's all. I don't care much for having a tablet O/S bolted onto the back of the desktop. Some do like it and that's fine. Posts like yours lose all credibility ... you're just spamming. What are you, a Linux user or something? Don't come onto this board with 4 posts to your credit and make comments like that, please. You're just asking to be banned (or ignored).

-Max
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 17R / Dell XPS 8300
    CPU
    Intel i5 (17R) / Intel i7 (XPS)
    Memory
    8GB / 8GB
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