Sometimes less is more (when expressing yourself).
Sometimes less is more (when expressing yourself).
It might also mean that they can express themselves clearly and succinctly; quality rather than quantity.
Boy, things are getting a little heated here with some of you.
Now come on lets be honest here.
In W8 you boot-up into the Start Screen (providing that you exclude the password sequence which is left to you and applies in all OS's.)
If you have spent a little time at first set-up you will see ALL your normal & frequently used tiles/icons arranged and Named in Groups. (Again YOUR choice and NOT predetermined as in the Start Button of previous OS's)
Here comes option 1. You can click on the Tile/Icon of required program which will both open the program itself but also open it in the Desktop. (So 1 click and you are up and running in a 'program' in Desktop)
Option 2. Click on the Desktop Tile to be taken to Desktop where, if you have moved from W7 you will find it arranged in exactly the same way you had it in W7. If not comming to W8 by that route you can simply pin icons to the Desktop Taskbar as required - you only have to do it once - no big deal.
So you are up and running in perhaps your Browser within Desktop and you need to open another program. Well just as previously you select that icon from your Taskbar (if it's frequently used item - again determined by you) If an infrequent program then you went to Start and started to trawl for it. Would you believe it but in W8 you right click where the Start used to be to find yourself in the Start Page where (providing you took the trouble to set it up to YOUR OWN requirements) you will far more easily have access to the clearly illustrated icons/tiles for ALL programs and of course instant search should you require it.
As for the rest, well you are all using this excellent Forum so why don't you avail yourselves of the excellent Tutorial Section which explains everything in plain language.
Come on, it's a great OS and easy to use, just look before you leap - namely do a little research and stop the moaning.
It's amazing to discover that many people never worked out that you could edit the old "Start Menu".
I've found two very different reactions when I've shown folks my Win8 setup:
1) Folks raised with Smart Phones who already have Android tablets -- LOVE IT! They've become accustomed to using a tile-like interface to do their stuff, so the Win8 look and feel is more of the same. No surprise here.
2) Folks raised with PCs that sported Menu system -- Detest it! The "I don't want a SmartPhone look to my desktop" is the usual complaint. However, once I showed them the desktop tile, they saw their familiar Win7 look-and-feel -- and liked it.
This thread has become way too much of a "I'm smart -- and you're stupid" heated argument.
Not liking the Win8 tile desktop does NOT make someone inept, nor does it make them stupid. Nor, is the tile-interface DEFAULT look of Win8 "just the same" as the menu interface of Win7. So, saying everything is just where it used to be in Win7 WITHOUT mentioning that you have to be on the Desktop for that to be true -- simply put, is being dishonest.
We would all serve our community better if the more passionate of us would quite caring about whether folks agreed with us or not, and went back to providing help to folks who need it.
It is not where it used to be in Windows 7. The start menu is missing, Period, unless you elect to install 3rd party apps. When I mentioned that my friend gave a big sigh of relief after I loaded up classic shell on his new laptop, I was not lying. He does a lot of designing in illustrator etc, and he found getting around in windows 8 to be a pain in the ass. Everyone of my friends and colleagues have expressed the same, which was my point in posting. I remotely support hospital servers from home all across the US and typically have anywhere from 15-30 windows open at a given time.. sometimes more. I don't imagine as a company we will be transitioning to 8 any time soon. Sometimes, you just want to click the start menu, and hit a quick link from the same location it has lived for 15 years, because it is familiar and easy. You don't have that CHOICE in windows 8, unless you want to install 3rd party apps.
So for those who say, "You do have a CHOICE, you can just hit the desktop button and walla," you are missing the point. You know you are missing the point, but you insist on sticking to your guns.
Everyone who has replied has failed to answer my question.. What is wrong with Choice? What is wrong with giving users the option of doing things the way they always have from a desktop, while at the same time giving them the option of trying something new?
I get that there are many around these boards who love the new look and the new way of doing things. Can you not at least admit though, that it was wrong to take away other peoples choice?
I did see someone reply to a similar put question around here... "Well, if they gave people choice, no one would use it and it would defeat the purpose." I found that remark to be very telling .
it's not meant to be a direct replacment of the old start menu, but an evolution of it instead where live tiles are the norm and you can view instantly what is happening in any given app.
if you can utilise the start screen and the apps to get that live info to it's fullest then it is more efficent, it's just not that easy to do sometimes, takes a bit of lateral thinking outside of the box.
I don't care about live tiles. In my earliest post within this thread, I made the statement that I had yet to glean any information from live tiles that justifies using them instead of nice clear icons that make it easy to know what program I am opening. I stand by it. I like the concept of a windows store built into the OS. Live tiles might be useful I guess, for someone who just wanted to stare at their start screen, waiting for and interesting live tile update. That ain't me. I think they tried to be innovative, but I don't see any other companies copying this any time soon. Android widgets are way better, many of them offering the ability to control the app strait from the icon widget. Now, something like that might be useful.
Anyhow.. time will tell if someone takes a crack at answering my question.. Why did they not give people a choice?