Put the developer build on a machine and been messing around with it. I've seen mostly praise for this OS and I'm a very optimistic and usually easy to please person. I've been using Windows operating systems since DOS and have been partial to Windows, always defending.

My initial reaction to Windows 8 isn't a pleasant one. Now, I understand that this is a very early build, but I doubt most of my concerns will be changed much in the final build. I also understand that this is a tablet OS, so I'm not sure if this is how it will work on PCs as well? Is there a way to make the start button work like it has for so long?

There is no use for the tablet screen on a PC and I'm guessing you can turn that off?

Having to click Start > Control Panel > More Settings > System (after changing view type to avoid even more clicks) > Device Manager to get to device manager adds yet another click to get somewhere from Windows 7.

If they are going to have the tablet menu on a PC, then you should be able to scroll by bringing the mouse to the edge of the screen and not having to use scroll bars.

How do you close apps??? However it is done, it's unintuitive. The only thing I have been able to figure out is to ALT+TAB out to the desktop. Is that how it's going to be on a PC, or is that only on tablets? Or is it only on a PC if you're running a tablet app?

I don't know, so far, not a huge fan.

Originally Posted by nothappysofar

How do you close apps???

CTRL + ALT + DEL Of course ! LOL
Dont know how to close apps, really frustrating :O

I think unless they give the option to shut off this metro start button then Win8 is going to be another Vista.

BTW if you move your mouse to the bottom left corner pressing start seems to shut down the programs.

The Metro Start Screen is here to stay. And it works PERFECTLY on a desktop or a laptop with a keyboard and mouse. I know many people don't appreciate change, but I would ask you to keep your mind open. Take time to read about the new stuff -- you'll understand why it was created and how it increases productivity.

If you just have a closed mentality like some people initially had with the Office 2007 Ribbon, it won't help you to appreciate the newer, better method of doing things. Yes, it will take some time to get used to and learn all the new stuff -- but there's no need to hurry. You'll eventually not only get used to it, but actually start to love it.

Originally Posted by pezzonovante

If you just have a closed mentality like some people initially had with the Office 2007 Ribbon, it won't help you to appreciate the newer, better method of doing things.

A closed mentality? Why should I be 'open minded' about a new feature that is making me do extra clicks and such just to do what I could do in a couple of clicks on the old start menu? The tiles do absolutely nothing for me in a desktop environment. Sure for tablet users it's a great way of navigating.

If Microsoft have sense, they'll allow users to choose which method they want to use. It shouldn't be too hard.

Originally Posted by Presto

A closed mentality? Why should I be 'open minded' about a new feature that is making me do extra clicks and such just to do what I could do in a couple of clicks on the old start menu? The tiles do absolutely nothing for me in a desktop environment. Sure for tablet users it's a great way of navigating.

If Microsoft have sense, they'll allow users to choose which method they want to use. It shouldn't be too hard.

Can you explain what extra clicks you are having to encounter? Launching an application from the Start Menu list used to take quite a few clicks and a lot of hunting. But now you can just type 3/4 letters of the program name to launch any app.

For example, to launch the Calculator in the old fashioned way you have to click Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Calculator. This not only involves quite a few clicks but also you need to hunt for the application.

With the Start Screen you can simple open the search box, and type "cal", and you'll have your Calculator app. It is faster, simpler and more efficient.

Originally Posted by pezzonovante

With the Start Screen you can simple open the search box, and type "cal", and you'll have your Calculator app. It is faster, simpler and more efficient.

You can do that in 7 too.

Here's my Start Menu. No hunting around and everything how I want it. To shut down is just a couple of mouse clicks. Anything launched easily and quickly.



However, there is a registry tweak to disable the Metro UI, which also brings about the usual Start Menu. As long as this remains in place, or Microsoft give the option to use either then I'll happily update to Windows 8.

Have been playing around with the preview last coupla hours. Quite disappointed. Its like a touch UI tacked on to good old win7. After disabling the UI with that reg trick, its the same.

Coupla interesting things though. Dont mind that explorer ribbon, you can actually toggle hidden files show or hide. Also in power options advanced settings found something called memory power management, trying to figure it out.

And what happened to modern pdf reader?