Windows Game Developers Didn't know about DirectX

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Hey y'all,
So I've been watching this game called Modern Law, it's supposed to be made for Mac, Windows, and Linux. Anyway, they came out with a demo version a couple days back and when I tried to play it I got no picture/video, just audio. I told them about it and when I asked if the problem might be caused by DirectX 11 they told me that they were working off of Mac's and didn't even know about DirectX. I believe in this game and I want to see it work on my system. Is there an easy fix for this or is going to take some brains.

P.S I am very new to Windows, all of Windows, not just Windows 8.
 

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Really?! Can't anyone help me? Is there another program besides DirectX that I could download/install on to my computer to get the demo to work?
 

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Really?! Can't anyone help me? Is there another program besides DirectX that I could download/install on to my computer to get the demo to work?
DirectX is part of windows only and all programs using it have to conform to it, to be written for it in other words. It can't be uninstalled or replaced with something else. There are other standards that are not Windows specific but are supported by video card divers like "Open GL" and any games written with it in mind have to support it as well as video card and it's drivers.
So in other words, NO it can't be replaced. If that game is not written for DirectX, and apparently is not since they did not even know about it, it may be in Open GL which is open standard but your video card does not support it. Ask them about "Open GL". Apparently they did not port that game from MAC properly at all, some programers, sheesh. DirectX, in it's various incarnations is around since Windows 95. 19 years old and they didn't hear about it, Mac or no Mac, my 9 year old niece knows of it.
 

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Apparently they do know of DirectX, but they didn't make it compatible because they have no PCs at all. I guess they're all Mac! Kinda weird for game development!

I've also asked them about Open GL.
 

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Apparently they do know of DirectX, but they didn't make it compatible because they have no PCs at all. I guess they're all Mac! Kinda weird for game development!

I've also asked them about Open GL.
They are not too keen to port it properly then. New Macs are on the Intel platform and windows could be installed on them too, either in VM or as dual boot. Just like some Intel platforms can be made to run Macintosh OS, so called "Hackintosh". Still, they had to have access to a windows machine to do this porting, if nothing at least thru "Boot Camp" for Mac but it's not a 100% compatible with everything.
So, unless they fix it, you are SOL for that game.
 

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they told me that they were working off of Mac's and didn't even know about DirectX. I believe in this game and I want to see it work on my system. Is there an easy fix for this or is going to take some brains.

If a game developer tells me they don't know about Direct X and are purportedly developing a game for PC.... I'd run far far away from them.

Sort of like a business company telling you they never heard of Outlook mail. This info kind of goes hand in hand for the field you're in.

My two cents.
 

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they told me that they were working off of Mac's and didn't even know about DirectX. I believe in this game and I want to see it work on my system. Is there an easy fix for this or is going to take some brains.

If a game developer tells me they don't know about Direct X and are purportedly developing a game for PC.... I'd run far far away from them.

Sort of like a business company telling you they never heard of Outlook mail. This info kind of goes hand in hand for the field you're in.

My two cents.

That too but still it could be a Flash game or work thru browser, who knows but those guys probably don't, lol. Carelessly written program, even if it is "only" a game can wreck havoc with rest of the system, specially if it starts messing with registry and shared .DLLs. Dx goes pretty deep into system and can mess up a lot of stuff too. Since there is just no picture but rest seems to be working, it may be even just a mater of wrong resolution or frequency without dependance on DX. Even large game developers have problems when porting from game machines and more often than not make a mess of otherwise good game.
I remember long time ago, I was trying to port some programs from Atari 400 to Radio Shack CoCo, both of them used same BASIC, there was only 100 or so lines of code and still it was difficult job. If it was that easy, everybody would be doing it.
 

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Could I download Open GL and only use it with the game? Not "replace" DirectX, just not use it when I play the game.
 

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Could I download Open GL and only use it with the game? Not "replace" DirectX, just not use it when I play the game.
That comes with video card drivers. It could be done in video card hardware or be done by processor, in software. It is not replacement for DirectX. Game has to be made to support it.
 

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Could I download Open GL and only use it with the game? Not "replace" DirectX, just not use it when I play the game.
That comes with video card drivers. It could be done in video card hardware or be done by processor, in software. It is not replacement for DirectX. Game has to be made to support it.

The game (or demo) does support Open GL...
 

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That comes with video card drivers. It could be done in video card hardware or be done by processor, in software. It is not replacement for DirectX. Game has to be made to support it.

Is that a yes?
 

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That comes with video card drivers. It could be done in video card hardware or be done by processor, in software. It is not replacement for DirectX. Game has to be made to support it.

Is that a yes?
Yes it is yes. Get this program to find out about your video card capabilities with Open GL information : GPU Caps Viewer: Graphics card and GPU information utility, OpenGL, OpenCL and CUDA API support, NVIDIA GeForce, ATI Radeon | oZone3D.Net
There's some information here too: Download TechPowerUp GPU-Z v0.7.7 | techPowerUp
 

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Now what do I do or look for?
 

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Now what do I do or look for?
In GPU caps viewer for OpenGL information, it's somewhere in the middle. On the bottom you have tests to se what works and what doesn't.
If you are still in contact with those guys ask them which version of OpenGL their game supports. You can also tell them which version you have and see what they say.
Can you provide me with address where I can download and try that game preview ? Just to see if it would run here.
 

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they told me that they were working off of Mac's and didn't even know about DirectX. I believe in this game and I want to see it work on my system. Is there an easy fix for this or is going to take some brains.

If a game developer tells me they don't know about Direct X and are purportedly developing a game for PC.... I'd run far far away from them.

Sort of like a business company telling you they never heard of Outlook mail. This info kind of goes hand in hand for the field you're in.

My two cents.

That too but still it could be a Flash game or work thru browser, who knows but those guys probably don't, lol. Carelessly written program, even if it is "only" a game can wreck havoc with rest of the system, specially if it starts messing with registry and shared .DLLs. Dx goes pretty deep into system and can mess up a lot of stuff too. Since there is just no picture but rest seems to be working, it may be even just a mater of wrong resolution or frequency without dependance on DX. Even large game developers have problems when porting from game machines and more often than not make a mess of otherwise good game.
I remember long time ago, I was trying to port some programs from Atari 400 to Radio Shack CoCo, both of them used same BASIC, there was only 100 or so lines of code and still it was difficult job. If it was that easy, everybody would be doing it.

However they design the game is one thing; stating you don't know about an important API on the world's most prevalent OS is entirely different.

Yeah their intentions may be not to use the API, but calling yourself a developer and stating you didn't know about DX is scary. Even before taking programing classes I knew about java and C++. Why? :think:... Because I mess with computers.

Anyway I note the OP corrected himself, but I was just making a general comment.
 

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Downloading now, not much information about it though.
OK. it works here no problem. The only way to get out of it is with F4 but looks ok. Set on highest details and resolution. GPU Caps 1.jpg
Here's info about my GPU.
 

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Okay, apparently I was mistaken again, the game doesn't support OpenGL either. In their on words, "We use Unity 3D, it doesn't go into depth on the build, but no Open GL wasn't an option in our build panel options."
 

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Okay, apparently I was mistaken again, the game doesn't support OpenGL either. In their on words, "We use Unity 3D, it doesn't go into depth on the build, but no Open GL wasn't an option in our build panel options."
Hmmm. whatever it runs on, works here.
 

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