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FPS Problems with all games

  1. #11

    Posts : 11
    Windows 8

    Thanks for the help all. Are there any good... affordable graphics cards anyone would suggest? Around $100-$200?

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  2. #12

    My house
    Posts : 148
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64

    The new AMD R9-270X or GTX 660 would be around that price range and will run all those games you mentioned without hiccups. I would go for the 270X as it's an HD 7950 basically and it's $200. Performance for the dollar .

    GTX 660 non - Desktop Graphics Cards, GeForce GTX 600 series, GeForce GTX 660, 660
    R9-270X: - R9-270x
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  3. #13

    Posts : 11
    Windows 8

    Hey all,

    I switched out my computer for an Asus. It came with a Geforce GT 640:

    DirectX version: 11.0
    GPU processor: GeForce GT 640
    Driver version: 306.14
    DirectX support: 11.1
    CUDA Cores: 144
    Core clock: 720 MHz
    Shader clock: 1440 MHz
    Memory data rate: 1600 MHz
    Memory interface: 192-bit
    Total available graphics memory: 6866 MB
    Dedicated video memory: 3072 MB DDR3
    System video memory: 0 MB
    Shared system memory: 3794 MB
    Video BIOS version: 70.26.4E.00.05
    IRQ: 16
    Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen2

    Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.130108-1504)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    System Model: M51AC
    BIOS: 0404
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
    Memory: 16384MB RAM
    Available OS Memory: 16292MB RAM
    Page File: 2593MB used, 19330MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
    System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
    DxDiag Version: 6.02.9200.16384 64bit Unicode

    Should this card be able to play with a FPS higher than 19-20... because I installed Final Fantasy 14 and tested it out. I am still getting only those low FPS. If the card should be able to run the game smooth, than there is something going on with either the game itself (I will know when I can test with other games) or a windows 8 thing.

    The thing is, my old computer (which my wife is now using) has an AMD 6850 that can run FFXIV on high with minor settings taken down, at 55-60 FPS.

    Thanks for your input! You have all been amazing!

    P.S. I tried just upgrading the graphics card on the original purchase, but nothing worked on it. I had a tech try multiple cards, but the computer would not detect any he tried.
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  4. #14

    My house
    Posts : 148
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64

    GT 640 is not a gaming card, just like the AMD card you had in the previous PC, which indicates the card isn't powerful enough and the 6850 is obviously a very good gaming card which can handle games like FF14. You're welcome for any help I have offered, best of luck to you!
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  5. #15

    Posts : 11
    Windows 8

    I am a bit confused. There are a few versions of the GT 640, and I have the one in here that is 3GB memory. Comparing some of the specs to each other, it seems the GT 640 has better stats. Man, this is rough.
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  6. #16

    My house
    Posts : 148
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64

    The 3GB is meant to assist with multiple monitors, it is still not a 1080p card by any means it is Nvidia's low end gpu, if you want to game you can look at the suggestions I posted for the nvidia or amd gpu.
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  7. #17

    Posts : 1,127
    Windows 8.1 Pro

    If you're on a budget, you can get the Nvidia 650 Ti for around $120 after rebate.
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  8. #18

    Posts : 25
    Windows98 to Windows7

    I have been trying to find a solution for the SLOW FPS people are getting on Windows8 with games that use an earlier version of Directx. I see alot of discussion here regarding graphics cards, but I think that may be a red herring. What i have observed is that people who upgraded from Windows7 to 8 have their FPS drop after the install and those who get a new computer with WIndows8 installed have no probleming installing and running a game but the FPS drop.

    I suggest people try the game that doesn't work, and when they have it running, then offer the solutions.

    It seems to me there is something different in how WIndows8 directx works then Windows7 in its emulation, of earlier directx versions. Perhaps its direct draw perhaps not.

    But something is hogging teh processing power in windows8 to have such a low framerate.

    When I see the specs on these computers, I laugh, I can run these games on an old Windows98 to Windows7 with some very basic and generic graphics cards. I believe that getting until someone puts a high end graphics card in a WIndows8 computer and then gets the said game to run in full FPS , only then, should they be telling someone to get a new card otherwise you are spending money on a gamble.

    These games often don't need a high end card, although nice to have , this FPS drop currently is very dramatic and is a result of Windows8.

    I have been scanning/looking for a solution for about 1 year and have yet to find one.

    While there are many directx games having this issue, teh one I play is called
    Demolition Derby and Figure 8 racing.
    Nothing fancy at all.

    It works on Windows95 to Windows7, and uses Microsoft Directx8.1 , with full support in Directx9 and emulation in the Vista and Windows7 directx.

    Windows8 SHOULD have no issues with this game, or others, but it does, and therefor there is a change in how Windows8 version of directx is doing the emulation.

    If anyone has found a game using Older Directx that is affected by the Low FPS issue on windows8 only, and has found a solution, please post the solution.

    I'd hate to accept that Windows7 as the last OS that Demolition Derby and Figure8 racing will run on...There is no reason it shouldn't run full speed on Windows8
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  9. #19

    Posts : 3
    Windows 8.1

    I honestly don't know much about ideal specs for gaming, but I do know that anything Intel will not go over well with gaming. I tried playing a simple game with it and I got less than 5 fps.
    I also know that HP laptops aren't exactly the best for gaming, but I'm not sure about desktop computers, I assume they'd be better. I have an ASUS laptop (See my profile for some specs) and I've gotten up to 200 fps out of it. It's not too expensive either. I got it for $500, brand new.
    The graphic card I use is the 512mb Radeon HD 7640g which is a dedicated memory.
    Sorry I can't expand more on my ideas, I don't have many.
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  10. #20

    Posts : 25
    Windows98 to Windows7

    I figure if a Windows95 computer with a bread and butter video card can run a game at full speed and windows7 can run the game at full speed and yet computers with windows 8 either brand new or updated from W7 run the game at 5FPS, its not about the hardware, its about the software within Windows8 and figuring out what has been changed from Windows7.
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