Something I learned is never run a game on a Storage Space

SolidSonicTH

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It's IMMENSELY slow. I was having loading problems and all sorts of mess trying to get the Storage Space to load my game.

Also Driver: San Francisco seems really uncooperative with Windows 8. Even the installer I had to tell to run in Windows 7 mode (and then it wouldn't start, though that might be related to the above issue).
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro With Media Center x64
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    CPU
    Intel Core i5 750 (2.66 GHz x 4)
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    MSI P55-CD53
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 1066 SDRAM
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    Realtek HD Audio Codec
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    Planar PX2710MW (27")
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    128 GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD (Boot) ,2.99 TB Storage Space comprised of: 640GB Western Digital Black x2, 2TB Western Digital Black
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    Raidmax Smilodon
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    Air
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    (varies)
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That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. While I would not expect it to make things better than a single drive, I would not expect it to make things worse.

What is your storage spaces config like? How many drives, what type of stripe setup?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7
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    Self-Built in July 2009
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    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
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    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
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    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
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    23" Acer x233H
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    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
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    Antec P182
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I was just using no mirroring across 3 drives (2 640 GB and a 1 2TB).

I am suspicious one of my drives is bad for a reason not related to this but for the moment I broke up the storage space and will try running everything as individual drives for the time being (to test how quickly the read/write is if I'm not putting them into a consolidated drive system).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro With Media Center x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    N/A
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 750 (2.66 GHz x 4)
    Motherboard
    MSI P55-CD53
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 1066 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    1GB XFX Radeon HD 6870
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Planar PX2710MW (27")
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    128 GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD (Boot) ,2.99 TB Storage Space comprised of: 640GB Western Digital Black x2, 2TB Western Digital Black
    Case
    Raidmax Smilodon
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    (varies)
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Notebook Mouse 4000
    Internet Speed
    10 Mb/s
storage space can be slower than individual drives. storage space is more about data integrity and protection than pure performance. just like how you can have a RAID setup for performance or for data integrity (or for both which requires a lot of drives).

that said, I doubt Storage Spaces is the reason behind solidsonic's problems. it's most likely having to do with the game and the way it's configured.


here's an explanation of storage spaces:
Storage Spaces explained: a great feature, when it works | Ars Technica


here's an excerpt from the aforementioned article regarding performance:

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To test read and write speed, we put together a 15GB folder of files. We copied the files three times and then averaged the amount of time it took to ensure accuracy—to establish a baseline for performance, we first copied that folder from the computer’s local hard drive to one of the external hard drives. We then copied the same files to two of the drives set up in two-way mirroring mode, and then again to three of the drives configured to use parity mode. Three-way mirroring, which requires five drives, was skipped because our system had only three USB 3.0 ports.

These graphs show just how slow writing to Storage Spaces can be—it takes a little under twice the amount of time to copy files to a mirrored storage space than to a bare drive, and it takes about four times that amount to copy files to a space in parity mode.

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When copying to a drive without Storage Spaces enabled, speeds are consistently just above 100MB/s.

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In mirrored mode, things start out at around 100MB/s, but quickly drop off and hover between 40MB/s and 60MB/s.

parity.png
This same effect is even more pronounced in parity mode, which starts at 100MB/s but then drops to around 25MB/s.

So, in actuality, if you're just making relatively small writes to your storage spaces, you shouldn't notice much performance degradation: copying files to mirrored and parity mode spaces is just as fast as a normal file copy for a short amount of time. It wouldn't surprise me if this was an intentional decision on Microsoft's part to keep things speedy for people only making light use of their storage spaces.
 
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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
But overwhelmingly, when playing video games, it should be all reads from the disk.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
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