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Will SSD boost my laptop perf lot more than regular HDD ?

  1. #11

    If you have a choice, I would stick with HGST. Over the past several years, HGST drives have had the lowest failure rates (by a large margin) than all the other brands while oddly WD which now owns HGST and Seagate have had some of the worst failure rates.

    Your wishes to boost performance with a faster drive vs upgrading your RAM from 4GB is unfounded. Increasing your RAM will definitely offer the most bang for your money in virtually every task - including disk intensive tasks because with more RAM, your OS will not have use the page file on the slow hard drive near as often.

    Just remember, however, that to take advantage of more than 4GB of RAM, you MUST have a 64-bit operating system.

    Note too that 5400RPM drives are used extensively in notebooks because they consume less power (for longer battery run time) and they generate less heat (always a concern with notebooks).

    While I fully understand the frustration at SSD prices, I try to justify the extra costs in my mind by spreading those costs over the years I expect to get use out of the device. Considering I value the data stored on my drives more than the cost of the drives, I see that extra cost as an investment that should pay off in the long run.

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  2. #12

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    Okay. Having a failing HGST HDD perhaps makes be biased against it. Besides, many online shopping sites here have buyer-reviews stating WD & Seagate HDDs are among the best n more reliable. Of course, one can average our such reviews on such sites :-)

    Yes, I get your point about upgrading RAM, over getting a faster HDD. Luckily, I have Win 8.1 64-bit, so can probably benefit from a higher RAM as well. What makes it difficult for me to decide is that unlike in a desktop PC, a laptop (mine, surely) has only one slot for a slim HDD. No scope to have an SSD AND a HDD. So, if I choose to get a new SSD, it's got to have my OS AND my own data, which is about 30Gb at present. While I can probably manage with a 150Gb SSD (allocating 100Gb for OS partition, and rest for my own data), but don't want to cut it so fine. So, I'll probably need to get a 250Gb SSD, which will cost me twice as much as a regular 500Gb laptop HDD.

    For me, replacing a failing HDD is a priority, while upgrading RAM is optional. So, considering if managing with 4Gb RAM and a 250Gb SSD would be enough !
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  3. #13

    Okay. Having a failing HGST HDD perhaps makes be biased against it.
    I can understand that but until Man can create perfection 100% of the time, even the best will have units that fail prematurely.

    FTR, I don't pay attention to buyer reviews. Many down rate a product because the UPS man delivered it next door, it fell off the FedEx truck, the post office delivered it a day late, or the picture on Amazon was a different color.

    Plus, you would be hard pressed to find any user review that was not made within a day or two of purchase.
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  4. #14

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    Fully agree with you Itaregid. While I understand that all electronic devices do fail at some point, it's just human to avoid a brand which has failed sooner than expected (I assume HDDs last atleast 4-5 years, but then...). Moreover, in my case, neither of the three - HGST, WD, or Seagate have a good after-sales support here, so I referred to the buyer-feedback on online sales websites like Amazon. But, you are right about buyer-reviews. It's hard to tell a fake one from a real one though.

    I am in a dilemma whether to buy a 250Gb Samsung 750 EVO SSD to replace my failing HGST 500Gb HDD, and not upgrade RAM for now. Else, whether to buy a standard HDD like the one I have, and upgrade RAM with another 4Gb one. The overall cost in both cases would be about the same, but which option would give me better performance remains a mystery to me :-(
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  5. #15

    250Gb Samsung 750 EVO SSD
    For a few dollars more (it's always "for a few dollars more", huh?) you can get an 850 EVO and as seen here, those few extra dollars get you much better performance.

    And for yet another "few dollars more" you can get an 850 Pro which has an amazing 10 year warranty.

    but which option would give me better performance remains a mystery to me :-(
    Again, more RAM will give you the best bang for money now, since you are starting out with just 4GB (again assuming you have a 64-bit OS). But if your current drive is failing, you probably should replace that first if the budget does not currently support a new drive and more RAM at the same time.
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  6. #16

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    Thanks for sharing the comparisons for Samsung 850 EVO SSD and the 750 one. Sure, the 850 one does perform way better, and also offers 5-yr warranty, while 750 one comes with only 3-yr war'ty. But, the prices in INR are incorrect, as I am not getting those prices in any e-com site here in India. Moreover, I quoted prices in earlier posts in dollar-converted prices to make it easier to understand price difference, but in INR terms they vary significantly. E.g. Samsung 850 EVO SSD costs Rs. 7000, and the 750 one Rs. 5000. Couldn't find Samsung 850 EVO Pro SSD on any site here (perhaps it's out of stock or not for our market). Similarly, Samsung 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz original (as in my laptop now) costs Rs. 2500, while Corsair 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz costs Rs. 1700. Also, WD / Seagate 500Gb 6Gb/s 8Mb cache (same specs as current HGST one) costs Rs. 3500.
    So, if I go with your advise - Samsung 850 EVO SSD + Samsung 4Gb RAM = Rs. 9,500
    If I choose WD/Seagate 500Gb HDD + Samsung 4Gb RAM = Rs. 6000

    Have considered Samsung RAM n not Corsair as someone on another forum said since my Laptop has Samsung RAM, I should opt for same make for another 4Gb module, as some motherboards &/ BIOSs don't recognize RAM modules of different makes. I am not quite convinced, as with my limited tech know-how, I feel the system should be only concerned with identical tech specs of RAM modules and hence should be brand agnostic. Do you agree, or is there some merit in choosing same-make RAM modules ?

    Just for your ref. my Samsung RAM Model - M471B5173DB0, and Corsair RAM Model - CMSO4GX3M1A1600C11

    Overall, when I check costs, it varies significantly for me to stay within my Ltd budget :-(
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  7. #17

    Years ago, it was absolutely essential to buy identical brand and model number RAM to ensure compatibility. That is not necessarily true today as manufacturing techniques have improved so much, RAM from different makers are much better at matching published specifications. And the memory managers in our systems are much better today at making RAM work together too. Still, I would only buy from a site that guarantees compatibility - just in case.
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  8. #18

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    I agree with your view. Just recollect that in my earlier Acer Aspire 5742G laptop, which came with just 3Gb RAM (1+2Gb), I had upgraded it with a 4Gb module of Transcend make, while retaining the 2Gb Samsung one. It worked fine for couple of years, until I sold the laptop off.
    This time I got a bit confused with the posts on another forum, about using same make & model of RAMs, because the post mentioned about motherboard &/ BIOS restrictions. I thought the newer laptops may have some way of sensing "non-original" (i.e. not supplied with laptop) RAM modules, so may not detect "other" RAM modules. However, I have checked with one vendor for Corsair 4Gb RAM for my model of laptop, and he has confirmed that it would work, as its specs are identical to the Samsung RAM installed in my laptop currently. In any case, this e-com site (Amazon India) offers a replacement warranty, and I have email communication with vendor. So, in case the Corsair one doesn't work alongside the Samsung RAM, I will return it and get the Samsung one and pay the difference, that's it.

    But for budget constraints, I would have wanted to get an SSD instead of a HDD, considering all the benefits of an SSD. Alas, the price diff is way too much (Rs. 3500 v/s Rs. 7000).
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  9. #19

    There is still lots of advice dolled out on forums that is based on outdated information, or even myths and falsehoods that then gets repeated over and over again.

    The problem is, no one is going to promise their RAM with work without problems with every other RAM out there. I suspect even your computer owner's manual recommends identical RAM.

    I thought the newer laptops may have some way of sensing "non-original" (i.e. not supplied with laptop) RAM modules
    No. There would be no reason for that.
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  10. #20

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    True. Seems like the age old advise on mobile phone battery recharge. While NiMh / NiCd batteries had "memories" and required to be drained out fully before charging them again, the newer Li-ion or Li-Pol batteries have no such constraints. Yet, the same old advise is passed on for ages.

    I'd rather not go by my laptop User Manual, as it recommends I take the laptop to the HP Auth ASC for any repairs / upgrades. So, they think they can fleece me with overpriced parts / accessories, which I can get done for much less, with compatible ones.

    The theory about newer systems (motherboard / BIOS) restricting upgrade options does sound convincing, though it turns out it's just another rumour. But all PC makers have a "dirty tricks dept" to harass customers, so never know what they build into newer systems ;-)
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