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Identifying partitions on HP Pavilion 15 HDD for SSD image

  1. #71

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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    Then you are GOOD to go..

    As I am not going to get into along drawn out explanation as to what the recovery image process entails..

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  2. #72

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    Windows 8.1

    That's cool - what we're up against here is the limit of my knowhow, and I appreciate that your guidance is based on real knowledge, so thanks for the tips -- like magic, but then so much is : )
    I might download the files back onto a new USB and see if it gets me to the update page when I plug it in. But away from it for a few hours now, so will report back on final steps later
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  3. #73

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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    If you have NO data on your HDD
    Remove the SSD
    And use the Recovery Media to Reset the HDD back to factory...
    That way you can test on HDD and not mess up your SSD..

    to restore HDD back to a Data Disk - Just do like you did before and remove the newly created partitions and format as one disk partition
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  4. #74

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    Win8.1 Pro | Win10TP Pro - boot to VHD

    I agree with KYHI - you just got your system the way you wanted it. Don't play with your live system!

    You've already set up the HDD to house your cloud data, so that is not an option either.

    If..... and I stress IF you want to play with Recovery, then I strongly suggest that you get a new HDD and use that as your sandbox.

    IF, and again IF ... you do decide to play around, then I also suggest that you NEVER have our good data (the previous HDD) connected when your experimenting.

    But ... why do it? It's always good to learn, and you've picked up quite a bit in this exercise. Digest all of that first and read more. The worst thing people do is gain new knowledge and apply it immediately after solving an issue - the end result is usually more issues and possibly more serious issues.

    So as I suggested after the first 'ooops' - slow down, enjoy the fresh install on your SSD and think, rethink, read, re-read and about that time you might say "That was cool, but I'm not going to mess around just yet. Maybe in 6 months or a year - but not right now"

    <MinSize> is defined in MB, so you're correct 25000 is less than 65536.
    Quote Originally Posted by TechNet
    MinSize element Specifies the minimum required size for the primary hard drive, in megabytes.

    If this element is not included, your user won't be able to repartition the hard drive.

    If the actual size of the drive is smaller than the specified size, an error message appears when your user attempts to repartition the drive.
    It's a minimum control setting - the example scripts use 75000.

    How that setting relates to the other parameters is left as an exercise for the 'student'.
    As far as this exercise goes, you don't have to change it - KYHI used 65536 (64 GB) based on his experience to be sure that you didn't get the error documented above.

    It's all moot now though. If you're interested - read the technical pages on TechNet. Remember - don't screw around on live data - use a test bench HDD to play with.

    I'd like to know the status double D issue and see a current disk management screen shot. That should close out this issue if it is resolved. I was thinking that the issue was related to either a dynamic disk ooops or a partial mirror. These things happen when less experienced people play around with disk and drives. It's how I learned NOT to do some things

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  5. #75

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    Windows 8.1

    Hey OK, I've got the Recovery files on Dropbox/HDD.
    I was away and on reflection don't want to mess around with Recovery, as I guess you'd agree! Everything is working fine and there's no point in messing with it.
    Having chosen to remove the Recovery Partition, the double D drive has disappeared - problem solved! Must have been some phantom Windows thing. It was there on my first Disk Manager screenshot, before I'd changed anything. Gone now, so another resolution.
    It is satisfying to see everything looking good. Halfway through I was away and turned the machine off, turned it on again with the Recovery USB inserted and was taken to the page 'Choose Keyboard layout'. Good it works but of course didn't want to activate the recovery drive so turned the machine off again, removed USB, turned on again and came back to the working machine. A sign that that USB works. I can't copy the files from dropbox onto a neutral USB as I only have one USB big enough to carry them all. I wont wipe the USB I have until I can test the back up files on another USB of sufficient size.
    Lastly, I prefer not to do the tests because putting the SSD into this model involves taking out lots of screws and prising up the lid of the keyboard, then shifting small connecting wires underneath. It was fun to do once, but everything is working fine and this is no good reason to do it again.
    I get the impression that I have these back ups:
    1 Dropbox/HDD copy of Recovery media
    2 Recovery USB
    3. Windows ISO.
    This seems pretty thorough back up to me. So all good?
    Here below -- first final Disk Management shot, also images of the Sources file on my Dropbox Factory Recovery folder.
    I'm happy - thanks very much!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Final Disk Management.PNG   factory recovery 1.PNG   snipping tool two.PNG   recovery 3.PNG  
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  6. #76

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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    pop open that PBR_Restconfig.xml with notepad
    and the PBR_Diskpart.txt

    those are the files windows RE wrote
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  7. #77

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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    Bart, I do not know if you know how to read resetconfig.

    But if you look at the factory one you see three cmd files..

    Also notice that OS is partition 1 with a minsize of 25000MB - one of those cmd files MUST move partition 1 to partition 5 the recovery partition after the reset..

    What that tell me is that the factory is expanding it own version of recovery tools first.. Thus giving the user the HP interface and option to restore windows and HP apps

    Because as you know on UEFI systems the OS is partition 4

    OP this is just banter / info - no need to test anything
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  8. #78

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    Windows 8.1

    Here they are...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails PBR ResetConfig.PNG   PBR Diskpart.PNG  
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  9. #79

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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    Thank You D,

    Just as I thought..

    Now if you notice the MinSize it is 108479 = 106GB the size of your SSD
    The OS partition is partition 4
    the recovery partition is partition 5

    those two files are correct for your current setup with the SSD and those two files are WHY the HP Recovery USB you purchased Failed..

    And No Offense - The reason why we create the recovery media via control panel on a working system first..
    We would of had to change that minsize to adjust for the SSD as winRE would of wrote a much larger size for the HDD

    But since recovery media was created with windows on the smaller SSD it wrote the SSD size.. So a plus in a way.. But still in a round about way...

    You now have the option to use that Recovery Media to Reset your SSD to the factory HP Settings..
    Last edited by KYHI; 28 Feb 2015 at 09:18.
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  10. #80

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    Windows 8.1

    Ah very interesting, and neat - I see what you mean. Great it's all set to go. Ah so I guess if I'd made these adjustments to the HP USB then it would've worked? I'm glad I took it back - I had wanted to create my own originally. I have made the other adjustment that you originally suggested. I don't know if I'll test the recovery out - it seems like rocking the boat when everything is running smoothly. So it contains the OS and the HP extras? Maybe its cleaner without them. It's good to have it though, and the refund for the old one : )
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