Solved Cloned my old HDD to a new SSHD but it will not boot.

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Hello All,

I cloned my 2 TB HDD (Disk 0) to my new 4 TB SSHD (Disk 1) using macrium reflect, all seems to have gone well except when I try to reboot using my new SSHD with the old HDD unpluged i can only access the BIOS (Maximus hero VII MOBO Bios). I have already switched the Boot Option settings to boot off the new SSHD. When i plug the old HDD back in and boot my pc it starts normally.


So i have a few questions, Why does Disk 0 still have (Boot,Page File, Crash Dump, Primary partition) if i changed the Boot options on the bios and not Disk 1? Also when i right click on Disk 1 and try to "Mark Partition as Active" this option is grayed out, but on Disk 0 it is available.

I pretty much want to boot my PC off the new SSHD and have the HDD as backup storage.

HDD to SSHD Problerm - Imgur


Thank you.
 

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Hello Popeye, i downloaded the program and tried looking up on the guides but i honestly have no idea what i'm looking for.

HDD to SSHD Problerm - Imgur

I added a new entry as drive D: and set it on the "Edit boot menu" tab.

is that correct? Sorry tried looking at the guides but couldn't find anything.

Thanks.
 

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Well, looking at the D: drive in the pics you posted, if that is the SSD you're trying to make work, it is not formatted and there is no boot partition. A bit confused what drive is what. Have you simply placed the SSD into the HDD slot and see if it boots?
 

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Drive C: is my old HDD 2 TB, I cloned all the info from Drive C: onto Drive D: which is the 4 TB SSHD (Not an SSD, cant afford that lol).

I thought i did format it since it is now blue and doesn't say no allocation or whatnot.

On Drive D: i noticed it does not say (Boot,Page File, Crash Dump, Primary partition) but it does say that on drive C: . I guess my question is, how do i make Drive D: say (Boot,Page File, Crash Dump, Primary partition) instead of Drive C:. I think that may solve the issue.
 

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That should already be there if you cloned correctly, it doesn't appear anything is there. What did you use to clone and did you clone all partitions on the C: drive?
 

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I am not sure if it will work. You are cloning a 2TB disk which has MBR style partition to a 4TB disk. For any HD > 2TB, you should configure as GPT disk style.

In addition, why would you want to have a 4TB disk for your Windows ? Normally, we want to keep Windows OS to be small (100~150GB) for easy maintenance and Backup and save your personal data to the large HD.
 

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Hello Top gun,

Yes i thought of that too, When i first formatted the 4 TB SSHD i set it to GPT, but maybe when i cloned it changed? And i just figured if i could start my windows from a 4TB SSHD it would boot faster and programs would run faster, if this is false then it makes no sense to even mess with the settings. I will just use the 4TB SSHD as a storage drive.

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Hello Top gun,

Yes i thought of that too, When i first formatted the 4 TB SSHD i set it to GPT, but maybe when i cloned it changed? And i just figured if i could start my windows from a 4TB SSHD it would boot faster and programs would run faster, if this is false then it makes no sense to even mess with the settings. I will just use the 4TB SSHD as a storage drive.

Thanks
If you want Windows to run/boot a lot faster then you should consider getting an SSD. 120GB SSD is more than enough for Windows then you'll see big improvement. For large HD, it will not help for Windows to boot/run faster.

The price of SSD is really dropping down, here's one:
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX100...ie=UTF8&qid=1416775055&sr=8-3&keywords=mx+100
 

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Thank you Topgun, but would all programs run faster? Or just the boot? i was under the impression the hybrid SSHD would have similar results to an SSD.
 

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Thank you Topgun, but would all programs run faster? Or just the boot? i was under the impression the hybrid SSHD would have similar results to an SSD.
Yes, with hybrid drive, it does help speed up since the hybrid drive has its own memory manager and decide what file/data you frequently use and load them into the SSD part. However, it does not have the speed as a pure SSD.
 

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Ah ok, thank you for the response.

So there is no way of me booting my PC with my new hybrid drive by cloning from my old HDD, i would have to do a clean install of my system?

Thank you.
 

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Yes, You'd have to re-install Windows. Initialize the 4TB drive as GPT disk type, set your BIOS to UEFI and re-install.
 

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Hello Again Top gun, i was actually able to purchase the SSD you mention on sale for Cyber Monday.

So now i have a question, How can i make my windows boot from the SSD and how can i configure certain programs/games to boot from the SSD as well. Could I clone my boot info onto the ssd and switch the primary boot on the bios and expect it to work?

If i have to re-install windows onto the SSD, can i just plug my HDD/SSHD back in after the install and expect my programs to be there? Sorry i am not very Computer-savy.

Thanks in advanced.
 

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Thank you Topgun, but would all programs run faster? Or just the boot? i was under the impression the hybrid SSHD would have similar results to an SSD.
That is only in part correct. For sequential reads, they are nearly as fast as SSDs. For random that is another story. The arm still has to fly around for the access and the HDD access time is appr. 150 times slower than on a SSD.

For your OS transfer I would suggest you make a Macrium image of the 2 partitions on the 2TB drive. Then define the exact same partitions on the 4TB drive and restore the images to those partitions. Make sure you mark the system partition active.

I never had a lot of luck with Macrium cloning either. That's why I go the more difficult route via the images.
 

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Hello Again Top gun, i was actually able to purchase the SSD you mention on sale for Cyber Monday.

So now i have a question, How can i make my windows boot from the SSD and how can i configure certain programs/games to boot from the SSD as well. Could I clone my boot info onto the ssd and switch the primary boot on the bios and expect it to work?

If i have to re-install windows onto the SSD, can i just plug my HDD/SSHD back in after the install and expect my programs to be there? Sorry i am not very Computer-savy.

Thanks in advanced.
  1. Connect the SSD to a USB/Sata port. Run Macrium and create a backup image as shown in the screen shot and save it to thw 4TB HD.

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  2. Shutdown and disconnect the HD containing Windows and connect the SSD, set the SSD to be the first boot device in BIOS
  3. Reboot the PC, it should boot from the SSD.
 

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Hello Top Gun,

I tried this method yesterday, but when i click on "Creat an image of the partitions..." it seems to make an image that is about 1.8 TB, On my album (link below) the second image shows the screen that pops up after i click on that. Is there certain things i have to uncheck in order to man an image that will only copy the files needed to boot windows 8 onto my ssd?

HDD to SSHD Problerm - Imgur

Again thanks for all the help, hopefully we can resolve this soon.
 

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I wish i knew, all i want to do is clone whatever i need to boot from my HDD into my SSD so my pc boots faster, Later if possible i would also like certain things to boot off my ssd (I have no clue what to move or how to move stuff into my ssd).
 

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