How or why could a SSD make the motherboard/CPU hotter?

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I have an envy 17 jo29nr... I've had an overheating problem and to make a long story shorter, I re-installed windows 8 and then 8.1 fresh on a HDD (I have to do both to keep my legit product key as you can't install 8.1 with a 8 key, which is lame). The temps went to normal, spiking at 70c. To determine it wasn't my fault, I re-installed windows on the SSD and here I am, haven't updated to 8.1 yet, and it's idling around 70c. That's a lot more than 40-45 that it runs on the HDD. SSD's run far cooler and I have no clue how or why this is possible. Google hasn't been kind to providing me with more insight. If anyone has 2 cents to throw my way, I'd appreciate it. I didn't think my SSD was that fast, but going back to the HDD, it's like night and day and I really would rather keep the SSD.
 

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    Intel® Core™ i7-4702MQ
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    Hewlett-Packard 1968 (U3E1)
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    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
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    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
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    17.3" diagonal full HD anti-glare LED-backlit
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    120GB Kingston Hyper X 3K SSD

    750GB Western Digital 7,200 RPM with Intel Rapid Storage Technology using a 25GB mSATA SSD for caching.
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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
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    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
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    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
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    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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I don't think it's SSD's fault, they run much cooler than HDDs and use way less energy. It probably has to do more with system, not having all the drivers and/or energy saving settings, memory leaks, runaway processes etc.
 

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There are things that run in the background after a clean install like indexing and windows update that can keep the CPU running more than you would expect. That will raise temps some.
 

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    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
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    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
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There are things that run in the background after a clean install like indexing and windows update that can keep the CPU running more than you would expect. That will raise temps some.


I don't understand how a fresh install of windows 8.1 with all the updates and all drivers from manufacturer installed on a Kingston Hyper X 3K 120GB hard drive that has 85GB of free space that's being powered by a Core i7-4702mq could possibly be demanding enough to cause the motherboard and CPU to idle at just under and at 70 c. But then on a 5400 rpm HDD, runs around 45.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-j029nr
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-4702MQ
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 1968 (U3E1)
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
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    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
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    17.3" diagonal full HD anti-glare LED-backlit
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    120GB Kingston Hyper X 3K SSD

    750GB Western Digital 7,200 RPM with Intel Rapid Storage Technology using a 25GB mSATA SSD for caching.
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    Full-size, island-style, backlit with numeric keypad
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There are things that run in the background after a clean install like indexing and windows update that can keep the CPU running more than you would expect. That will raise temps some.


I don't understand how a fresh install of windows 8.1 with all the updates and all drivers from manufacturer installed on a Kingston Hyper X 3K 120GB hard drive that has 85GB of free space that's being powered by a Core i7-4702mq could possibly be demanding enough to cause the motherboard and CPU to idle at just under and at 70 c. But then on a 5400 rpm HDD, runs around 45.
There were few complaints about these Hyperx drives, it could be a bad drive, get in touch with the Retailer or Kingston, I believe that the drive failure is the reason for high temps.
 

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    Win 8.1
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    Acer Aspire E1-571
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    i5-3230m
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    Acer Type-2
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    8GB DDR3 1333MHz
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    Intel HD 4000
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Thanks, I'll do that.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-j029nr
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-4702MQ
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 1968 (U3E1)
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" diagonal full HD anti-glare LED-backlit
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    120GB Kingston Hyper X 3K SSD

    750GB Western Digital 7,200 RPM with Intel Rapid Storage Technology using a 25GB mSATA SSD for caching.
    Keyboard
    Full-size, island-style, backlit with numeric keypad
    Browser
    SR Ware's Iron, Comodo Dragon
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security
I have an envy 17 jo29nr... (I have to do both to keep my legit product key as you can't install 8.1 with a 8 key, which is lame)

As I just did a clean install of Windows 8.1 PRO using an ISO upgrade file that I had bought with the $40 deal. Windows rejected the key that came with the 8.1 upgrade and I gave the Key from my retail Windows 8 Pro a try and it worked. :)

As for your CPU heat problem, it must be doing something in the background. Check your task manager for programs that have high cpu usage.
 

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    ASUS Maximus VI Hero
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I'd have to agree that its unlikely the SSD drive causing temp issues. There are no mechanical parts in play here and they run much cooler that traditional mechanical hard drives. And even a cheaply made one would get that warm to cause the issues the OP is experiencing.

I don't see the SSD drive as a probable cause of the 25-30 degree high temp spikes.

The temps went to normal, spiking at 70c. To determine it wasn't my fault, I re-installed windows on the SSD and here I am, haven't updated to 8.1 yet, and it's idling around 70c. That's a lot more than 40-45 that it runs on the HDD. SSD's run far cooler and I have no clue how or why this is possible. Google hasn't been kind to providing me with more insight. If anyone has 2 cents to throw my way, I'd appreciate it. I didn't think my SSD was that fast, but going back to the HDD, it's like night and day and I really would rather keep the SSD.

That said, it is possible the SSD drive is bad or failing, but even in that, I don't see it running that. 25-30 is a lot! That nearly sounds like the CPU fan is failing.

I didn't think my SSD was that fast, but going back to the HDD, it's like night and day and I really would rather keep the SSD.

Also where are you getting your temp reading from? What program are you using? Can you post us a screen shot of those temps?
 

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    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
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I'm using 120GB Kingston right now and it's running at ambient temperature while all HDDs are around 40c. Temperature can be read from SMART in it's FW too. Hard Disk Sentinel does a good job of reading it. CPUiD HW Monitor can keep tabs on it too.
 

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    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
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    Asus Prime x470 Pro
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    16GB Kingston 3600
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    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
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    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
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I'm using 120GB Kingston right now and it's running at ambient temperature while all HDDs are around 40c. Temperature can be read from SMART in it's FW too. Hard Disk Sentinel does a good job of reading it. CPUiD HW Monitor can keep tabs on it too.

That's great. My SSD is running at 33 c. My question wasn't about the temp of the drive.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-j029nr
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-4702MQ
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 1968 (U3E1)
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" diagonal full HD anti-glare LED-backlit
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    120GB Kingston Hyper X 3K SSD

    750GB Western Digital 7,200 RPM with Intel Rapid Storage Technology using a 25GB mSATA SSD for caching.
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    Full-size, island-style, backlit with numeric keypad
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    SR Ware's Iron, Comodo Dragon
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    Avast Internet Security
I'm using 120GB Kingston right now and it's running at ambient temperature while all HDDs are around 40c. Temperature can be read from SMART in it's FW too. Hard Disk Sentinel does a good job of reading it. CPUiD HW Monitor can keep tabs on it too.

That's great. My SSD is running at 33 c. My question wasn't about the temp of the drive.
So that leaves what ? What most of us are saying, it's system that's overworking, it has nothing to do with that drive being an SSD. SSDs don't even do what systems do with HDDs, no defraging etc. It's not putting any strain on the system so that means it's not the part "guilty" for overheating.
 

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    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
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    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
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    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
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    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
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I'm using 120GB Kingston right now and it's running at ambient temperature while all HDDs are around 40c. Temperature can be read from SMART in it's FW too. Hard Disk Sentinel does a good job of reading it. CPUiD HW Monitor can keep tabs on it too.

That's great. My SSD is running at 33 c. My question wasn't about the temp of the drive.
So that leaves what ? What most of us are saying, it's system that's overworking, it has nothing to do with that drive being an SSD. SSDs don't even do what systems do with HDDs, no defraging etc. It's not putting any strain on the system so that means it's not the part "guilty" for overheating.


If it's not the SSD, then how come when I do the same exact install on a HDD, the issue doesn't occur? And what's overworking? There's nothing installed besides a fresh copy of windows 8.1, manufacturer drivers and updates. The CPU isn't being used up, the memory isn't being used up. What's overworking? I don't think that's the issue. There's barely anything going on in the task manager. The temps only run hot on the SSD (the motherboard and CPU temps, not the SSD itself) , not any HDD with the same install, same drivers, same updates.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-j029nr
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-4702MQ
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 1968 (U3E1)
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" diagonal full HD anti-glare LED-backlit
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    120GB Kingston Hyper X 3K SSD

    750GB Western Digital 7,200 RPM with Intel Rapid Storage Technology using a 25GB mSATA SSD for caching.
    Keyboard
    Full-size, island-style, backlit with numeric keypad
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    SR Ware's Iron, Comodo Dragon
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    Avast Internet Security
You evidently decided to forgo my questions so.... :confused:

Peace :cool:
 

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    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 gig (1866MHz)
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You evidently decided to forgo my questions so.... :confused:

Peace :cool:


You didn't ask any. You're notion is absurd. Thanks for responding, but answers that have nothing to do with my question aren't helpful.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-j029nr
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-4702MQ
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 1968 (U3E1)
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" diagonal full HD anti-glare LED-backlit
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    120GB Kingston Hyper X 3K SSD

    750GB Western Digital 7,200 RPM with Intel Rapid Storage Technology using a 25GB mSATA SSD for caching.
    Keyboard
    Full-size, island-style, backlit with numeric keypad
    Browser
    SR Ware's Iron, Comodo Dragon
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
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    Asus
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    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
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    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
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    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
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    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
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    Thermaltake TR 620
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    Stock heatsink fan
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    Internet Explorer 11
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    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
I suspect the aluminium case of the SSD and it's conductivity but don't take my word as I have failed my A/L Physics first time around :p
 

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    Acer Type-2
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    8GB DDR3 1333MHz
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    Intel HD 4000
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I suspect the aluminium case of the SSD and it's conductivity but don't take my word as I have failed my A/L Physics first time around :p

I did have a sata cable that was connecting it go bad and I replaced it with another one I had.
 

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  • OS
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    HP ENVY 17-j029nr
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    Intel® Core™ i7-4702MQ
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 1968 (U3E1)
    Memory
    8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (11-11-11-28)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" diagonal full HD anti-glare LED-backlit
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    120GB Kingston Hyper X 3K SSD

    750GB Western Digital 7,200 RPM with Intel Rapid Storage Technology using a 25GB mSATA SSD for caching.
    Keyboard
    Full-size, island-style, backlit with numeric keypad
    Browser
    SR Ware's Iron, Comodo Dragon
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    Avast Internet Security
I suspect the aluminium case of the SSD and it's conductivity but don't take my word as I have failed my A/L Physics first time around :p

I did have a sata cable that was connecting it go bad and I replaced it with another one I had.

I think your answer is this, A normally working SSD would not cause your CPU to over heat. Many of us here and elsewhere have SSD and they don't cause our CPU to over heat.

It has already been brought up that there are issues with the particular SSD that you have.

Most likely you have a defective SSD. Have you visited the manufactures support website?
 

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    16 GB Hyundai HTM315156CFR8C-PB PC3-12800
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I have an envy 17 jo29nr... I've had an overheating problem and to make a long story shorter, I re-installed windows 8 and then 8.1 fresh on a HDD (I have to do both to keep my legit product key as you can't install 8.1 with a 8 key, which is lame). The temps went to normal, spiking at 70c. To determine it wasn't my fault, I re-installed windows on the SSD and here I am, haven't updated to 8.1 yet, and it's idling around 70c. That's a lot more than 40-45 that it runs on the HDD. SSD's run far cooler and I have no clue how or why this is possible. Google hasn't been kind to providing me with more insight. If anyone has 2 cents to throw my way, I'd appreciate it. I didn't think my SSD was that fast, but going back to the HDD, it's like night and day and I really would rather keep the SSD.

My 2 cents, more than 1 year later, but maybe for someone else:

- by default Windows sets the automatic defragmentation 'On'. If the SSD is not recognized by Windows (10, 8.1, for 7 and older still an issue even if recognized), Windows wants to defragment it, but the SSD MUST be "fragmented" (by design, it runs algorithms implemented in hardware that make sure the data is evenly spread across it's cells). This leads to a never ending fight (the SSD against Windows) that eventually ends with the break of your hardware. Also there are plenty of tutorials that list all the things one should do to optimize the SSD lifetime (e.g: turn off indexing, Search Service, etc), but "defragmenting" alone affects also the CPU usage not only the SSD.
- the HDD bottlenecks the CPU in such a degree that usually the CPU cannot overpass 10% usage for normal applications. The SSD does not.
- because a lot of users complained about the "noise" (?? really ??) of the coolers, most recent versions of BIOS-es start the cooler at dangerously higher temperatures than they used to some years ago. That's because they do not imagine someone with a laptop actually wanting to use it on "top of the lap". They are just stupidly thinking: "hey, the CPU junction temp can reach 100C no problem, so why not start the cooler at 80C ?... And the CPU lifetime is longer than of any other component... This will be quiet..." Hell ya, cemetery quiet!
- Windows Update uses the "idle" mode to perform it's updates. (they can last as long as 2 weeks, if not done all at once on demand)
- a wrong version of a piece of software installed successfully that is supposed to control the hardware (temperature, fan speed, voltage).
Can't think of something else right now.
 
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