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I'm using Partition Wizard Home v 7.8.

I know the source drive has a small area with bad spots that show up as "Not Ready" (error NRDY) when I used ViVard to try to block them off, most of the bad sectors got moved but there are a few sectors near the beginning of the drive that just stall up. Vivard ran all the way through and blocked most of it off. and the drive works, although it stalls up now and then.

I'm duping the whole drive, it started no problem but it has been stuck at 6% for about 30 minutes now.

The only other cloning program I got is an old version of Paragon, if I made a Paragon recovery disk, would that work? I need something that will just move on if it finds bad spots.

Ok, my old version of Paragon 8 won't launch, I found a trial for a newer version, it allowed me to make a recovery CD.

I'm trying "Raw Copy" for the HDD data, will that work to get over the bad spots?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
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    PC/Desktop
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    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
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    MSI "M-Box"
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    Water Cooled
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    Dell Keyboard
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    Microsoft Intellimouse
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    Cable Medium Speed
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    Chrome/IE 10
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    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
I have great experience with acronis TIH its what i use for all my personal things, and you could get the trial to dupe it but instead of duping it i would just tell it to backup though and do it by disk not partition and when it finds a bad sector it should warn you then let you pass over it from my experience. PC backup software | Acronis True Image if your gonna try to restore it on anything make sure you also download the bootable media so you can do it.
best of luck
rvcjew
 

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    WIN 7 PRO x64, WIN 8.1 PRO x64
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    Custom
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    Intel i7 4790K
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    ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
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    32GB(4x8GB) DDR3 Team Xtreem 2666 @ 2400 CL10 10-12-12-31
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    2x MSI GTX 780 Twin Frozr OC 3GB
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    ASUS Xonar Essence STX
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    ASUS PB278Q, HP 2311xi, UN46F7100AFXZA
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440p, 2x1080p
    Hard Drives
    256GB 840 PRO SSD
    10TB RAID 0 Array (Movies, Steam)
    6TB RAID 1 Array (Backups, Documents)
    3TB EXT Drive (Secure Backups)
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    Corsair AX760
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    NZXT White Switch 810
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    I also own a Lenovo Y510p, and Yoga 2 Pro
Great, if this fails, I'll do that, I'll download it. My Problem was finding a Paragorn Trial that would run in Windows 8, I found version 9, the Loader failed, but the program started by clicking on the program itself in Program files. I used it to make the recovery CD, and I'm trying the raw data copy.

I've used Acronis Dick Director in the past, to varying results, but I lost the boot CD I had.

The problem with the drive, is that it has four major partitions on it, including a Bootloader that handles the OS and the Recovery fartition. I basically only need the OS partition, but if I copied just that, it would not boot.

Great - Its downloading, will this trial make a Recovery CD?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
I've been running the paragorn recovery, the Raw Copy seemed to have worked, it is ALMOST done copying, been running almost 6 hours. I have the Acronis Boot Disk just in case.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
The Paragon Raw Copy finished around 11:00 last night. It was a perfect copy, even copied the disk errors, and a CHKDSK fixed them and put the files back into their folders. With all of the bad sectors, there really were only a few Installation Files corrupted, for some Lenovo programs. ALL FIXED.

it was a copy from a Hitachi/Lenovo 160 GB Drive to a 320 WD Scorpio Black 7200 rpm drive. Absolutely beautiful drive found on eBay for 30 bucks.

There were four partitions, one hidden, and I was able to use Partition Wizard 7.6 to shunt the small partitions to the very end of the drive, which I did all in one step. Then it allowed me to increase the size of the OS partition to full size. The version of Paragon I found in a stack of CDs was 9.0, build 4156 (21.01.08 ) Professional

And it can't be started in Windows 8 from the link, you have to find the Launcher.exe in the /Program folder of it's directory. I originally had 8.5 from when this was Windows 7. I created the recovery medium and used that to start the program from the boot CD.

I suppose this can be done with any newer version of Paragon, but it is no longer Partition Manager, it is something else- Or Acronis TI or Disk Director.

So if anyone has a hard drive that has any major NDRY error on it, of it is only in a few sectors, ViVard can get the drive readable, and Paragon's Raw Disk copy will move what can be moved.

This is about the 6th hard Drive I've recovered and moved this year and I've been able to save the existing data on all of them. I know this solution requires some paid software, but it is the best one I could find.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
thanks for the info will file it away just in case.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    WIN 7 PRO x64, WIN 8.1 PRO x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7 4790K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
    Memory
    32GB(4x8GB) DDR3 Team Xtreem 2666 @ 2400 CL10 10-12-12-31
    Graphics Card(s)
    2x MSI GTX 780 Twin Frozr OC 3GB
    Sound Card
    ASUS Xonar Essence STX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS PB278Q, HP 2311xi, UN46F7100AFXZA
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440p, 2x1080p
    Hard Drives
    256GB 840 PRO SSD
    10TB RAID 0 Array (Movies, Steam)
    6TB RAID 1 Array (Backups, Documents)
    3TB EXT Drive (Secure Backups)
    PSU
    Corsair AX760
    Case
    NZXT White Switch 810
    Cooling
    Block: XSPC Raystorm, RES/Pump: XSPC Bay res W/D5 Vario, RAD: XSPC RX360, 6xNF-F12's
    Keyboard
    Rosewill RK-9000 with MX Blue switches Logitech G15 Rev 2 (gutted for LCD)
    Mouse
    Logitech G400
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    I also own a Lenovo Y510p, and Yoga 2 Pro
NP - ViVard is on Hiren's Boot CD, but you can get it from HERE:

Vivard

It really has saved many drives I would have had to otherwise throw away, at least it got me able to copy the partitions, its a fine program and works for all kinds of Drives and OSes. The main thing to remember is that once you start it, you cannot lose power or have your PC shut off, it takes roughly 4 hours to run. If you shut it off, then you will lose the drive. There is no "cancel".

So set up a UPC if you are worried, that should give you enough time to hook up a gas generator heh.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
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