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Daily greetings everyone!
I'm right now gathering a parts list for my new puter rebuild later early next year, FINALLY, AMD's new APU lineup is FINALLY available for retail for the desktop! And new motherboards too!!
So I was perusing the Newegg and I decided to look at the liquid cooling sets they have. I remember two years ago with my last rebuild, I was pondering that as an option but later felt it wasn't cost effective as I was right, air cooling was totally fine for my Athlon processor, even overclocked pretty hard. But, as the APU I'm looking at has a modded Radeon 7660 onto of a quad core AMD processor that I do believe is overclockable, I may need to look at liquid cooling seriously now. My options I'm preferring are the closed-loop systems, where the radiator attaches to the back of the case, and the water block plops onto the APU, and that's it, no external tanks or remote possibilities of leaking. Sounds nice, but it might conflict with my airflow setup. I have two 92mm case fans that can blow 120 CFM, loud, but that's what case fan controllers are for! If I had the two fans set up, on top of an extra fan pulling about 50 CFM, I'll have a negative flow which isn't really ideal. Methinks I could make or find a jumper to connect to the motherboard CPU fan pins so it doesn't freak out at boot, and attach my case fan to the radiator and call it good. I would adjust the fan speed accordingly to usage, but I think if I have even just 50 CFU (fans running at 5 volts) that should be plenty enough. I would do that especially since I don't believe I can fit the radiator and case fan on the backside as my case I'm rebuilding (literally) which dates back to the trusty, inefficient days of the P4. Should I go for it?
Next, BOB SAGET, is the motherboard itself. I don't have much to say, only I need to vent. THEY'RE EITHER TOO BIG OR TOO SMALL!!!! I CAN'T FIT SEVEN SLOTS IN MY CASE AND I GET STRAPPED WITH FOUR SLOTS!!!! Damn it.
But speaking of such, I have me a question regarding PCI E 2.0 backwards compatibility. I discovered a SSD that is on the PCI E 2.0 x4 interface. My only available motherboard has two PCI E 2.0 x16 slots, and two PCI E x1 slots. Now, with my graphics card that will abolish using one PCI E x1 slot (I'll have to use a ribbon cable extender so I can use a built in wifi card) I'm left with two of each x16 and x1. Can I plop in the SSD (PCI E 2 x4) into the PCI E 2 x16 slot? I know they have backwards compatibility, but part of me calls BS.
To the system tweakers/overclockers out there, is it that difficult to overclock RAM? I've read how it's done, and the gains you can get especially with the new APU. But it seems like the scene in Star Trek: The Next Generation where the computer has to navigate the Enterprise out of an asteroid field as the calculations are immense and precise, except YOU are the computer.
Oh, one last bit. Does anyone use case fan filters on their rigs? If so, I'm assuming air flow is impeded, but is it significant? And does anyone have/know/use anything or have tips to share to quite the noise in the case? I bet when all is done, a roaring beast will roar...
And to those that will question some items, this rebuild is a legitimate future proofing build to last AT THE VERY LEAST, five years of hardcore performance, with the possibility and likelihood of upgrading the new APU "Kaveri" next summer as AMD claims 25 percent performance gains overall and still on the FM2 socket. We'll see. But hardcore performance entails, HD video playback, 1080p gaming at highest settings as possible, video converter/video authoring, Photoshop, AutoCAD, power efficiency, and overall performance so fast you'll slap your mother.
I'm right now gathering a parts list for my new puter rebuild later early next year, FINALLY, AMD's new APU lineup is FINALLY available for retail for the desktop! And new motherboards too!!
So I was perusing the Newegg and I decided to look at the liquid cooling sets they have. I remember two years ago with my last rebuild, I was pondering that as an option but later felt it wasn't cost effective as I was right, air cooling was totally fine for my Athlon processor, even overclocked pretty hard. But, as the APU I'm looking at has a modded Radeon 7660 onto of a quad core AMD processor that I do believe is overclockable, I may need to look at liquid cooling seriously now. My options I'm preferring are the closed-loop systems, where the radiator attaches to the back of the case, and the water block plops onto the APU, and that's it, no external tanks or remote possibilities of leaking. Sounds nice, but it might conflict with my airflow setup. I have two 92mm case fans that can blow 120 CFM, loud, but that's what case fan controllers are for! If I had the two fans set up, on top of an extra fan pulling about 50 CFM, I'll have a negative flow which isn't really ideal. Methinks I could make or find a jumper to connect to the motherboard CPU fan pins so it doesn't freak out at boot, and attach my case fan to the radiator and call it good. I would adjust the fan speed accordingly to usage, but I think if I have even just 50 CFU (fans running at 5 volts) that should be plenty enough. I would do that especially since I don't believe I can fit the radiator and case fan on the backside as my case I'm rebuilding (literally) which dates back to the trusty, inefficient days of the P4. Should I go for it?
Next, BOB SAGET, is the motherboard itself. I don't have much to say, only I need to vent. THEY'RE EITHER TOO BIG OR TOO SMALL!!!! I CAN'T FIT SEVEN SLOTS IN MY CASE AND I GET STRAPPED WITH FOUR SLOTS!!!! Damn it.
But speaking of such, I have me a question regarding PCI E 2.0 backwards compatibility. I discovered a SSD that is on the PCI E 2.0 x4 interface. My only available motherboard has two PCI E 2.0 x16 slots, and two PCI E x1 slots. Now, with my graphics card that will abolish using one PCI E x1 slot (I'll have to use a ribbon cable extender so I can use a built in wifi card) I'm left with two of each x16 and x1. Can I plop in the SSD (PCI E 2 x4) into the PCI E 2 x16 slot? I know they have backwards compatibility, but part of me calls BS.
To the system tweakers/overclockers out there, is it that difficult to overclock RAM? I've read how it's done, and the gains you can get especially with the new APU. But it seems like the scene in Star Trek: The Next Generation where the computer has to navigate the Enterprise out of an asteroid field as the calculations are immense and precise, except YOU are the computer.
Oh, one last bit. Does anyone use case fan filters on their rigs? If so, I'm assuming air flow is impeded, but is it significant? And does anyone have/know/use anything or have tips to share to quite the noise in the case? I bet when all is done, a roaring beast will roar...
And to those that will question some items, this rebuild is a legitimate future proofing build to last AT THE VERY LEAST, five years of hardcore performance, with the possibility and likelihood of upgrading the new APU "Kaveri" next summer as AMD claims 25 percent performance gains overall and still on the FM2 socket. We'll see. But hardcore performance entails, HD video playback, 1080p gaming at highest settings as possible, video converter/video authoring, Photoshop, AutoCAD, power efficiency, and overall performance so fast you'll slap your mother.
My Computer
System One
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- OS
- Windows 8.1 Pro
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- System Manufacturer/Model
- ASUS
- CPU
- AMD FX 8320
- Motherboard
- Crosshair V Formula-Z
- Memory
- 16 gig DDR3
- Graphics Card(s)
- ASUS R9 270
- Screen Resolution
- 1440x900
- Hard Drives
- 1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
x2 3 TB Toshibas
Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
- PSU
- OCZ 500 watt
- Case
- A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
- Cooling
- Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
- Keyboard
- Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
- Mouse
- Microsoft Touch Mouse
- Browser
- Internet Explorer 11
- Antivirus
- Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014