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  1. #11

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Thanks for posting, Vlad! Started very young. Lucky you!

    I like to research and share things through over internet and cant imagine my life "disconnected".
    Are you Max Headroom?
    The character ?

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  2. #12

    Tickle your funny bone did it? Did they have it in your country?

    Max Headroom, The Best Bits Ever! - YouTube

    Not bad graphics for the late 80's.
    Last edited by HippsieGypsie; 11 Jul 2012 at 08:10.
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  3. #13

    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Whoa...very interesting posts!

    My putering experiences don't go very far back, in fact, the first time I used a Windows OS was Windows 95 at school. I was a youngin at the time and barely remember it, I remember having to flip a switch in the back on the PSU of the tower to shut it down! It was pretty cool at the time, my school had a lab of new Windows PCs and they kind of taught us how to use it. The main thing I remember using was Paint, fun days! Later, those puters were upgraded to 98...I think. I don't really remember using that, not as much as using Windows 2000 on a new lab of Micron PCs that the district bought. I also remember a relative that was living with us at the time had a PC running 2000 on it.

    I remember a couple years after that, my brother won some money in a lottery and bought the first PC in our house, a Dell Dimension 4550. God, wow, he had that for YEARS! My first PC that I had was a Gateway, don't remember the series though. My other brother bought a new PC when his old one died and that's where my first encounter with the Devil Vista came from. It was cool, it looked different and felt nicer to use. I actually though it was nice that when a program encountered and error, a dialog box popped up giving you a few options on what to do with was nice until it was doing every hour! Terrible. I was pondering upgrading to vista for awhile, but after that and ALL the bad flak on it, nope.

    The first PC I've ever built was two years ago. Yes, I am that young! My brother that bought the Dell bought a new one and so he donned that off onto me. It was a bit of a higher end tower than mine. I had to replace the motherboard on it though. That is where I got a taste of the Windows 7 RC.... Wow, that was almost a good two years ago, I think August 1 will be two years ago. That puter ran the RC better than xp, I was so impressed! But since it was an elder tower by tech standards, I decided to build a new PC, one that was better, faster, stronger! So I literally rebuilt the tower, stripped it down, installed two hard drive bays, a laptop drive bay and one DVD drive bay. It was a pretty slick looking tower at the end. I was very proud of it! I became the first person I know to have built a computer! Although today's standards of building a computer versus building one 30 years ago pales in comparison.

    Now, I have decided to rebuild a new PC, one that is better, faster, stronger and built with Windows 8 in mind. I'm planning for a total of four hard drive bays, with a grand total of 8! Yes, 8 hard drives! And two external laptop connector ports and an external mSATA port as well, a new laptop drive bay for 4 hard drives, probably a dedicated bay for my SSD, and probably a 3.5 inch hard drive bay that is accessible from the front of the case. STORAGE!

    It's absolutely amazing how technology has traveled in terms of software and hardware....
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  4. #14

    Portsmouth Hants
    Posts : 772
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center

    I remember the first time I broke a PC. It was 1988 or1989, and it was the first PC I had seen with a colour monitor and a GUI. Not Windows, but GEM (Graphical Environment Manager). ​I can't remember what exactly happened, but I had some problem with a file, so I used that nice friendly sounding "Recover" DOS command like this:

    Recover C:

    That Big, Fat MS-DOS manual said nothing about every file being wiped and replaced with File0001.rec, File0002.rec...

    I was never allowed to use that PC again
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  5. #15

    My putering experiences don't go very far back, in fact, the first time I used a Windows OS was Windows 95 at school.
    Thanks for posting, Coke. Good story, but waddaya mean not that far back? In relation to creation, yes. In the computer age, no. Let's see you're between 21 and 30. the average of that is 25. The 1st main frame electronic computer was the Zuse Z3 built in 1941.

    2012 - 1941 = 71.

    71/25 = 2.84.

    So, you've been alive nearly the last 1/3 of the electronic computer age. If you consider the IBM 610 Auto-Point released in 1957 for $55,000 as the first PC, then you've been alive almost 1/2 of the PC's 55 year era. Also, the PC wasn't really massed produced until the late 70's. I'd say with the Commodore.

    Surely you have memories that are computer related before you used a PC. e.g. "My birth certificate was printed out on a printer via a PC". You can come back and edit/add to your post as you remember things, if that's what you choose.

    That Big, Fat MS-DOS manual said nothing about every file being wiped and replaced with File0001.rec, File0002.rec...

    I was never allowed to use that PC again
    Oh my, fafhrd!!! That's quite a "spanking"!!

    And then?! And then?!
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  6. #16

    Posts : 116
    xp , 7Pro, 8RP, Android phone, Tablet

    Coke Robot - why msata out of curiosity?
    esata enables me to hot plug a 2TB drive or SSD 120GB it will be a a couple of years before msata devices have that sort of capacity and I hate to think what the cost will be!
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  7. #17

    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by besb View Post
    Coke Robot - why msata out of curiosity?
    esata enables me to hot plug a 2TB drive or SSD 120GB it will be a a couple of years before msata devices have that sort of capacity and I hate to think what the cost will be!
    It's a bet on the future since I'm trying to futureproof my nee build as best as I can. As I see it, when the Windows tablet PC becomes more mainstream, so will issues and storage needs. I bet that as OEMs build thinner tablets, they will either a) build the flash memory onto the board, which results in limited expandability on board. Or b) SSD manufacturers will pump out mSATA SSDs to suit the needs of storage and keeping a thin tablet within its thin envelope. It takes a simple service panel and taking out a small flash drive to carry on the tradition of the PC in terms of customizing.

    I'm also going to have two external 2.5" hard drive ports as that size hard drive will remain for a long while, maybe even go smaller.
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  8. #18

    My first encounter with computers was in college in the early 70s. I was a chemistry major and in one of our courses they taught us Fortran (using the WATFOR compiler). We entered the programs on punch cards (IBM 029 machine) and took them to the I/O clerk at the window to be read into the system and run. Then in a lab the next year, a lab partner showed me the (hard-copy) terminals in an open lab and I was hooked: the thought of interacting with a computer was really cool for the time. I would go on to spend a lot of time in those labs both as an undergraduate and then as a graduate student. When some of the newer terminals were configured to communicate at 300 baud I was amazed at the speed.

    In graduate school I continued using the mainframe extensivley but was also able to use a departmental Nova minicomputer. Most system software was loaded as needed from paper tape but the system had a removable hard drive (maybe 2 MB?). I definitely remember the horror when the hard drive crashed (head crash) one day, and thinking I had somehow caused it. Fortunately nobody blamed me for the crash and I still had use of the machine off and on after that.

    The department hired a new professor who was building custom "microcomputers" for the chem lab instruments. The microcomputer booted from a cassette tape (ordinary tape player connected to the machine). I did not know a lot about the hardware but I was able to program one in our lab using BASIC. I didn't do a lot more than that with them as we were all learnign how to use them at the time.

    I took a job as a programmer writing Fortran programs for a company that wrote software for small colleges and for paper mills. They used custom-built minicomputers and interactive text-based terminals.

    I left there after about a year and a half, and took a job as a programmer at the university. They had a contract with the EPA to write programs for the EPA sample testing and results tracking system. Most of those were written and run on a DEC PDP-11 in a 4GL called Inform. The univesirty lost the contract but I stayed on and learned Cobol and PL/I for the (Amdahl 470) mainframe system. After about five years doing programming I moved into tech support. I learned IBM assembly language and wrote/modified operating system exits. I also installed and maintained the OS and some applications like compilers or system software. I wrote a bunch of articles for a publication called Technical Support that was published by the National Systems Programmers Association.

    From there I moved to our local electric utility and continued as a mainframe systems programmer. I got involved with some other platforms like Unix, as the era of client-server computing was dawning. I found out what TCP/IP was and learned how it works. We actually installed TCP/IP on the mainframe and did file transfers between it and some of the other systems using FTP.

    Around 1995 we merged with another utility and a decision was made to deploy Windows 95 workstations as the standard, with Windows NT e-mail and file/print servers. We would also deploy Windows NT domains for network user authentication and access. (There was some use of Novell Netware before then. The Novell guys were furious that we chose NT over Novell.)

    I got involved with Windows NT because the vendor of a Unix-based system we were using was planning to move to Windows NT. So I was in on the ground floor of our Windows NT rollout. I also sort of defaulted into hardware support: the server and components on the next order came separately, and we realized we had nobody who was a hardware expert. Fortunately, I read the installation instructions carefully, had someone else look at the server with me when I was done, and it powered up and ran correctly the first time. (Whew!)

    Memorable moments from all that:

    - Installing Windows NT Server (3.5 or 3.51) on a 100-MB hard drive partition and a server with 32 MB of memory.
    - Installing Windows NT Workstation 3.51 on my workstation from 20+ floppy drives (learned to appreciate software on CD)
    - Learning about service packs
    - Learning about device driver installation (Windows NT 3.51 and NT 4.0 were not PnP - though NT4 did later support some PnP)
    - Beta testing Windows NT 4.0, Windows NT 5.0 (later Windows 2000), XP, Vista, and 7 (and of course now Windows 8)
    - More NT resource domains than we ever have imagined (they were merged into a single domain with AD)
    - Learning RIS and WDS for automated server deployment
    - Learning to appreciate some hardware manufacturers over others (I won't name any here)

    Since Windows 2000 (originally called NT 5.0 in beta stages) much is a blur. I've done AD administration and architecture, general Windows administration, software installation, and hardware support over the years. Each new version seems to get a little better, except that I don't care for Windows 8.

    Somewhere in there we started using VMware ESX - something I have aways enjoyed using, especially with the whole vCenter suite.

    Most of our workstations here at the company run XP - we have a few Windows 7 "pilot" users but the Windows 7 rollout was sidetracked due to another merger that just completed. I run Windows 7 x64 both at the office (Enterprise) and at home (Ultimate) (with one netbook running Win7 32-bit). My main home machine came with Vista about four years ago. When Windows 7 came along I wiped and reloaded the machine with Windows 7. (XP seems so outdated to me any more.)
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  9. #19

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    Windows 7/8

    My first computer experience was being one of two people allowed to use the decwriter dot matrix terminal (no monitor) in high school. We played adventure (colossal cave) and star trek, reversi and a bunch of other text games, printed out ASCII art (Some of which I still have!). We also wrote programs, I mainly concentrated on ASCII art graphing of math functions (not quite fractals but similar idea). My friend wrote a program to make banners using fonts he hand "digitised".

    All done at 110 baud or something on a honest to ghod phone receiver modem where you place a phone handset into a pair of rubber cups after dialing the computer by hand. The paper was all recycled city school used green lined fan fold, we used it once on the back then flipped it over and used it again down the other edge when playing games.

    Paper was always scarce. Sometimes the paper had things like teacher salaries and stuff printed on it O.O
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  10. #20

    Thank you, TerryE, for sharing your amazing story! It must have taken you some time to sit and write. We surely appreciate that time spent. You must be proud of such a fulfilling and diversified career!

    Thank you, FSeal, for the early memories! What a privilege to be able to use the school computer terminal! We would have gotten our hands wacked with a ruler at our school! (Yes, teachers were aloud to do that back then ) Ah, the good old paper printouts. I still see them today at some stores, mostly lumber yards, for printing receipts. You must have been proud of your program and printing projects. And so, finally, tell us. How much did a teacher make back then?

    Please remember that you all can come back and edit your stories to add as you remember things.

    Also, We would surely like to hear from more of you younger ones. Building your 1st rig, loading your first OS, etc. It doesn't matter how old one is. We all have memories.............
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