I'm glad you share my enthusiasm over this phone!
I'm glad you share my enthusiasm over this phone!
Glad you like it
I was considering a Windows phone - but at the time I got my Galaxy IIIs the Windows 8 phones weren't out yet - and I didn't really like the older Windows phones based on W7.
Not only had the OS not matured enough some of the handsets looked pretty dreadful compared with what was on offer when I got my Samsung.
However I do need a SECOND phone. I have - my main one and I need another one I need when travelling and will use a Local "Pay as you Go" SIMCARD so I'll probably opt of one of the new Windows phones for my second phone --have heard a lot of good things about them --I don't think they'll be the dismal flop others predict -- but the PHONES themselves must also look good -- NOKIA seems FINALLY to be learning this truth as well.
Fortunately in a lot of Europe "Locked phones" are illegal so even if you DO take a contract you can always put another SIM in it and contracts can be for as short as 30 days. Most of the EU stuff coming from the commission is total Bol---ks but they seem to have got it right on mobile phones.
I'm surprised that in the US nearly all the phones are "Locked" --- Bang goes my chance of a cheap phone when I'm next in the USA.
Hi there, Jim. Glad to see you're considering the Windows phone. Not all phones are locked, but to obtain one it seems we have to purchase them outside the U.S.. I think Americans have been "tricked" into thinking that the only way to get a phone is through a contract. Usually two years. Companies subsidize the phone. Most don't know they can buy outright and go prepay. Cokie and I have figured out a way to pull this off. One saves approximately $500 per year.
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I noticed you didn't give details how to save that much money.
Samsung has a Windows Phone 8 handset that is basically the GSIII with the required Windows Phone touch buttons. The Lumia 920 is BY FAR the best Windows Phone in the world. The Lumia 820 is a good cost effective handset, removable battery and microSD card storage, along with interchangeable shells with different colors and one has a wireless charging circuit in it.
I'll base this off my personal experience with att and their monthly highway robbery. I bought the Nokia Lumia 900 back in April and signed on with them. From their website I assumed I'd be paying about 78 monthly for unlimited text, talk and 3 gigs of data. 300 MB for 20 dollars versus 3 gigs for 30? No. I got to the store and they end up saying I'd be paying 90 a month, there was a 20 dollars unlimited mobile to mobile plan I NEVER saw on the site. Preposterous. Along with taxes and other random service fees, the bill would had been like 110 monthly. Fortunately were I work, I was able to get a 24 percent discount and pay 84 dollars a month, which bumped up to 85. I never paid for the phone itself, as Nokia refunded the 100 dollar contract price due to a glitch some users were reporting, so as a goodwill gesture, they paid for everyone's contract fee for about a month. Good on them!
So following these numbers, for two years on att at 85 a month, it would come out to be roughly 2,040 dollars, more like 2,070 with the odd cents tallied up. Now, if Nokia didn't pay back the contract price, it would be 2,140 dollars over two years. Contrast this with T-Mobile's monthly 4G prepaid plans, personally I'm getting the 30 dollar a month plan with 100 minutes of talk, unlimited text, and unlimited 4G data up to 5 gigs before it gets throttled down. This is EXACTLY what I had with att, except I never hit 3 gigs of data usage. With T-Mobile, at 30 dollars a month and is NON-CONTRACT so you don't have to pay every month, after two years it will be 720 dollars. With a smartphone, like the Nokia Lumia 920, it will cost about 700 dollars for an unlocked handset for this scenario. Almost 800 for a red one, but I'll wait it out. 700+720= 1,420.
This is a savings of 620 dollars over two years! This is literally almost a new handset!
On average, the average American consumer will spend about 2,000+ on a smartphone and service. The reason why this works out is mostly because of, "Ohh, this is 50 dollars! Shiny!" And so they sign a contract for a phone that cost 50 dollars and never doing the math. Contrast this with the prepaid model, it's high price upfront, but saves potentially A LOT of dollars over the same period.
And if you don't need a high end smartphone, this is even better! A Nokia Lumia 710 that will be running Windows Phone 7.8 costs about 200 from T-Mobile. If you need a lot of talk and text and not a lot of data, the same 30 dollars can be used for that plan. So this will cost about 1,000 dollars over two years. Unlimited talk and text is your thing, with some amounts of data use? That's a 50 dollar monthly plan and after two years with that Lumia 710, 1,400 dollars.
This is awesomely what the CEO of T-Mobile is advocating, as they are trying to become the nation's largest pre-paid carrier. It's something the other carriers would like to do, but don't want to, primarily because your average consumer would rather 10 times out of 10 pay 50-100 dollars for a smartphone on a two year contract versus 600+ for a smartphone upfront.
Also, if you do this, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF INSURACE COVERAGE ON IT! Nothing would suck hard more than your 700 dollar phone breaking, but seeing as you have hundreds of dollars with the prepaid plan, you can buy a replacement phone versus the contract plan.
And don't get me STARTED on upgrading if you're under contract! If I wanted to use the Lumia 920 over my 900 on att, I'd have to pay about 180 dollars I think it was, to merely UPGRADE to that phone. Even though I would pay about 500 or so dollars for it on att for some odd reason, I'd still need to pay to use it. Then I would end up spending close to 2,700 dollars to do that. Highway FREAKING robbery. And yet, I had a call drop three times when I was driving from eastern Idaho back home in southern Idaho...and no one, from consumers to government, aren't questioning this and are putting up with it. It's like the days of MaBell or something.
please BEFORE POSTING PLEASE ENGAGE BRAIN a bit AND READ what the poster has said.
I said it's illegal in MOST of the EU -- Not ALL of it to lock phones.
You are implying that this statement is incorrect.
your words : It's illegal in the EU to have locked phones? Bullocks right now!
Chapter and verse please for this -- or just tell me which Telecomm provider in one of these countries issued you with a Locked phone.
D, NL, BE for starters don't lock phones -- as for Poland don't even start me on what's available there as anything goes.
Germany itself (D) is by far the largest economy and population size in the EU so by any decent measure at all the statistic is correct.
One of the problems here is that phones are locked. The other is that carriers demand you buy a data plan if you purchase a smart phone that has data capabilities. Why should I have to if I have WiFi at home or live in an area that has WiFi on just about every corner? The only time I really use their data is when I use the phone for navigation, which is not often enough to justify the data plan cost. I can purchase another separate unit for that.
I am paying Vz $163.00 a month on average for two Droid X2s on a family plan (one for my daughter) with two data plans, unlimited text (of which I got that grandfathered in for that wasn't included under the new contract), and 700 shared minutes. Taxes and insurance are included. I must needs get rid of contracts for sure!
Overall, I think Americans have been blinded to the rip-off carriers have pulled over their heads. I, for one, was one of them. Not no more!
I'm sure Cokie will defend himself, but if you will allow me to. I'm quite sure the "Bullocks right now" wasn't directed at your claim. It was directed at his discuss of American carriers. He amplifies that with his next sentence. Yes, I think he should have been more clear in his statement perhaps via paragraph structure.
I feel all is cool.
BTW, thanks for the added info on Europe.