Critical Event 41. The system has not shut down cleanly...

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I have this question before I consider this an actual issue.

Because I'm an Amateur Radio Operator I shut down all power to the PC and other accessories
at the main power strip. Important to mention that I only turn the main power off AFTER
the PC has turned off the blue power light indicator on the front of the unit.

I know that Windows 8 when you "shut down" the system actually does NOT fully shut off and remains
partially powered almost like sleep. Could it be that shutting off the power main causes this error to occur?

Thanks.


Here is the error report.


Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 12/24/2014 1:45:18 PM
Event ID: 41
Task Category: (63)
Level: Critical
Keywords: (2)
User: SYSTEM
Computer: ***********
Description:
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power" Guid="{331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}" />
<EventID>41</EventID>
<Version>3</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>63</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000002</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-12-24T18:45:18.726786100Z" />
<EventRecordID>2604</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="8" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>**********</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="BugcheckCode">0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter1">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter2">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter3">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="BugcheckParameter4">0x0</Data>
<Data Name="SleepInProgress">6</Data>
<Data Name="PowerButtonTimestamp">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootAppStatus">3221225684</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>
 

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Yes it's possible. FWIW - it will give you an Event ID 41 error if you hold the power button down to turn the system off. See the link below (on Event ID 41 errors) for more information.

Please do the following:
- open Event Viewer (run eventvwr.msc from the "Run" dialog)
- expand the Custom Views category (left click on the > next to the words "Custom Views")
- right click on Administrative Events
- select "Save all Events in Custom View as..."
- save the file as Admin.evtx
- zip up the file (right click on it, select "Send to", select "Compressed (zipped) folder")
- upload it with your next post (if it's too big, then upload it to a free file-hosting service and post a link here).

FYI - If we're looking for Event ID 41 errors (unexplained shutdowns), there's more info on that here: Windows Kernel event ID 41 error "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first" in Windows 8.1, Windows 8, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows Server 2012, Windows 7, or Windows Server 2008 R2

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Thanks for your rapid reply usasma!

FYI I do NOT use the physical power button to shut down the system, I use the Windows "shut down" selection.

I have done a dskchk.,scf/scannow, and Dell complete Diagnostic and no violations have been found. This is a BRAND NEW PC and I have barely used it.
One thing that stood out when I first got it was that I was receiving errors from the Atheros Bluetooth USB when the PC resumed from sleep. I was able to correct them when I reinstalled the Dell Wireless Suite, with the only issue remaining being an indication that a bluetooth keyboard would not be usable in the BIOS.



PC is Dell Inspiron 3847 with Core i5-4460 , 8GB, 1 TB using the Intel onboard 4600 graphics.
 
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I understood that you did not use the power button to shut down Windows - BUT, I wonder what removing the power does to the low power state that Win8 goes into? Could that do the same thing as using the power button to shut down Windows? I haven't had a chance to research that, but will see if I can have a look at it today at work.

FWIW - each bootup had a failure that I think is due to the method that you use to shutdown the system. If that is the case, then you won't get the benefits of fast startup and might as well just disable that.

Brand new PC's can have problems - even when just opening the box. I once purchased a motherboard that had a dying CMOS battery - it took me forever to figure that one out! I've also see several systems come out of the box with dead/dying hard drives.

Nothing revealing in the Event Viewer log - so I'd first suspect the Fast Startup stuff.
Once that's shut off, should the problems continue, then we'll have to look further into this.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win8.1Pro - Finally!!!
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung/NP780
    CPU
    Came with the laptop (i7 of some sort)
    Motherboard
    Pretty sure that it has one, but haven't checked inside the case!
    Memory
    upgraded to 12 gB from 8 gB
    Graphics Card(s)
    has switchable - Intel/ATI - Used wrong drivers, now ATI card is inop :( Will have to fix it soon!
    Sound Card
    I'm nearly deaf, so this isn't used often
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touchscreen on laptop/32" Toshiba on HDMI (laid the Sharp TV on a mouse and cracked the screen!)
    Screen Resolution
    800x600
    Hard Drives
    One Samsung 1tB drive - 5400 rpm. Gonna switch to a 7200/10000 rpm or an SSD (if I can find $500 for a 1tB SSD!)
    - Switched to 500 gB Samsung 840 series SSD - WOW!!!
    PSU
    Why do we ask this for laptops?
    Case
    Silver with a neat Samsung logo
    Cooling
    sub-par, gotta get around to working on it soon Worked on it - still sub-par! :(
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Natural - the same one I've used since it orignally came out around 1995
    Mouse
    no Mouse - Trackball!!!!
    Internet Speed
    too slow when I'm waiting for a download to finish
    Browser
    Yes, I use this (Firefox mostly, w/IE next most)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
    Other Info
    I'm handsome and a snappy dresser :0)
Thanks usasma!

My guess was that somehow removing all power from the system was causing this.

So I should disable the fast start up option?

I'll give that a try and let you know what happens in the next couple of days.
 

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