Windows 8.1 first cold boot always BSOD at windows loading

khangwei

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Hi,

Please help. I am at wits end. I have tried with a new harddisk, took out my graphics card, checked my memory, they all seemed fine. My computer always run into a quick BSOD during the first boot and I am unable to see the error message and it restarts back to BIOS followed by a successful boot into windows on the second try. Occasionally, on the second try, it would go into windows repair and say that windows did not start up correctly etc. Normally, once it gets into windows, it would be ok. I did have once that I got a BSOD in windows.

Another interesting point to note is I can circumvent the cold boot crash issue by going to BIOS immediately on boot and exit it. This way, it would normally boot into windows without issues.


I suspect this is due to the on board network card but I cannot be sure. I would appreciate any advice or help on this. This is extremely frustrating as this computer is only 1 week old and I have spent a lot of time troubleshooting it. I have tried uninstalling, cleaning and re-installing the latest network drive.

Please note that the cold boot crash issue does not always generate a mini dump file.

Recently, it has been showing System thread exception not handled.

Thanks in advance.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 Bit
Just an update, I turned off Automatic restart and here is what I see on a cold boot:

Your PC needs to restart.
Please hold down the power button.
Error Code: 0x00000078
Parameters:
0xFFFFFFFFC0000005
0xFFFFF80352F9444F
0xFFFFF803541E5268
0xFFFFF803541E4A70
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 Bit
Hey.

Code:
1: kd> lmvm bwcW8x64
start             end                 module name
fffff800`0185e000 fffff800`019b3000   bwcW8x64 T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: bwcW8x64.sys
    Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\bwcW8x64.sys
    Image name: bwcW8x64.sys
    Timestamp:        Wed Feb 13 12:25:48 2013 (511BCC9C)
    CheckSum:         0001741F
    ImageSize:        00155000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4

Uninstall Killer Bandwidth software.

Have fun with the new machine.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built Intel based
    CPU
    Pentium D 925 3.0 GHz socket 775, Presler @ ~ 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel DQ965MT
    Memory
    Hyundai 2 GB DDR2 @ 333 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS DirectCU II HD7790-DC2OC-2GD5 Radeon HD 7790 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Hard Drives
    1 Seagate Barracuda SATA II system/boot drive 80 GB, 2 Western Digital hdds - 1 is SATA II Caviar Black 1 TB attached to card (assorted media, page, temp), other is SATA I 420 GB (games, media, downloads)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W
    Cooling
    stock Gateway cooling, extra large fan in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Alienware/Microsoft Internet kb
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Optimum Online, fast for US
    Browser
    Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky integrated into ZoneAlarm+Antivirus
Hi Masterchief,

Thanks. It was already uninstalled. I only have the driver running currently. Those are probably old dumps before it was uninstalled. I am still seeing BSOD on first boot.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 Bit
Hi Masterchief,

Thanks. It was already uninstalled. I only have the driver running currently. Those are probably old dumps before it was uninstalled. I am still seeing BSOD on first boot.



The driver IS the issue. Uninstall that and you're good. :)

You're welcome.

If you run into any more issues for whatever reason, just post a new crash dump of it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built Intel based
    CPU
    Pentium D 925 3.0 GHz socket 775, Presler @ ~ 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel DQ965MT
    Memory
    Hyundai 2 GB DDR2 @ 333 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS DirectCU II HD7790-DC2OC-2GD5 Radeon HD 7790 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Hard Drives
    1 Seagate Barracuda SATA II system/boot drive 80 GB, 2 Western Digital hdds - 1 is SATA II Caviar Black 1 TB attached to card (assorted media, page, temp), other is SATA I 420 GB (games, media, downloads)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W
    Cooling
    stock Gateway cooling, extra large fan in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Alienware/Microsoft Internet kb
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Optimum Online, fast for US
    Browser
    Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky integrated into ZoneAlarm+Antivirus
Hi Masterchief,

Somehow my cold boot is only showing this and not creating any new dumps! This is the only thing I can see on first boot:

Your PC needs to restart.
Please hold down the power button.
Error Code: 0x00000078
Parameters:
0xFFFFFFFFC0000005
0xFFFFF80352F9444F
0xFFFFF803541E5268
0xFFFFF803541E4A70

Any idea why?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 Bit
Hi Masterchief,

Thanks. It was already uninstalled. I only have the driver running currently. Those are probably old dumps before it was uninstalled. I am still seeing BSOD on first boot.




The driver IS the issue. Uninstall that and you're good. :)

You're welcome.



So you mean I should uninstall the driver and not use the onboard lan? That is the latest driver available.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 Bit
No, no.

I was under the impression that this Killer Bandwidth is some 3rd party application.

If it is really for your actual adapter, then try updating it from here instead: http://www.killergaming.com/support/Downloads

Install latest Java, and let Intel's website scan for update and install whatever it might show.

Keep us updated please with new crash dumps if necessary, or success story.

Update the Realtek Audio driver from Realtek's site if ya can too. (That should get rid of this very old driver: MBfilt64.sys)

Code:
0: kd> lmvm MBfilt64
start             end                 module name
fffff800`031d7000 fffff800`031e5000   MBfilt64 T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: MBfilt64.sys
    Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\MBfilt64.sys
    Image name: MBfilt64.sys
    Timestamp:        Thu Jul 30 23:40:32 2009 (4A7267B0)
    CheckSum:         0000FF02
    ImageSize:        0000E000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4



What very well may be the problem, is this: WPRO_41_2001.sys

Code:
0: kd> lmvm WPRO_41_2001
start             end                 module name
fffff800`0378a000 fffff800`03796000   WPRO_41_2001 T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: WPRO_41_2001.sys
    Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WPRO_41_2001.sys
    Image name: WPRO_41_2001.sys
    Timestamp:        Mon Nov 07 16:04:48 2011 (4EB847F0)
    CheckSum:         00015ADC
    ImageSize:        0000C000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
I'd uninstall the software that owns it. WinPcap was just updated not too long ago. See about using that instead, if you're so inclined.

WinPcap · Download
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built Intel based
    CPU
    Pentium D 925 3.0 GHz socket 775, Presler @ ~ 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel DQ965MT
    Memory
    Hyundai 2 GB DDR2 @ 333 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS DirectCU II HD7790-DC2OC-2GD5 Radeon HD 7790 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Hard Drives
    1 Seagate Barracuda SATA II system/boot drive 80 GB, 2 Western Digital hdds - 1 is SATA II Caviar Black 1 TB attached to card (assorted media, page, temp), other is SATA I 420 GB (games, media, downloads)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W
    Cooling
    stock Gateway cooling, extra large fan in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Alienware/Microsoft Internet kb
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Optimum Online, fast for US
    Browser
    Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky integrated into ZoneAlarm+Antivirus
Thanks again for the advice.

My lan driver is the latest available from killer gaming. I will go ahead and update my audio driver now.

My first cold boot is alternating between these 2 error messages / BSODs. Somehow, I do not get new dump files. Just these.

I am not sure why.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 Bit
Yep. Gotcha. I made a few edits in my previous post that should set things well. See how it goes and we're here.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built Intel based
    CPU
    Pentium D 925 3.0 GHz socket 775, Presler @ ~ 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel DQ965MT
    Memory
    Hyundai 2 GB DDR2 @ 333 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS DirectCU II HD7790-DC2OC-2GD5 Radeon HD 7790 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Hard Drives
    1 Seagate Barracuda SATA II system/boot drive 80 GB, 2 Western Digital hdds - 1 is SATA II Caviar Black 1 TB attached to card (assorted media, page, temp), other is SATA I 420 GB (games, media, downloads)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W
    Cooling
    stock Gateway cooling, extra large fan in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Alienware/Microsoft Internet kb
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Optimum Online, fast for US
    Browser
    Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky integrated into ZoneAlarm+Antivirus
Sorry, I am a little lost now.

What is WPRO_41_2001.sys ? I do not know what software/hardware is using this.


What is winPcap for ?

Thanks alot
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 Bit
Sorry, I am a little lost now.

What is WPRO_41_2001.sys ? I do not know what software/hardware is using this.


What is winPcap for ?

Thanks alot


The WPRO_41_2001.sys driver is on old version of the WinPcap driver, according to Usasma's resource.

Reference: Driver Reference Table - WPRO_41_2001.sys

It is a network driver that has the ability to capture all data entering or leaving an adapter. For that reason and being that your adapter driver was crashing, it is the most likely cause of your issues at this time.

If you did not intentionally install it alongside something like Wireshark, then it is not without reason that a black hat hacker installed it on you. It's unlikely but very reasonable and practical for them to do so.

So, I would look at your installed software to see what you might have installed that installed that too, then uninstall. It may even show in the uninstall list simply as WinPcap. If you see that, uninstall that directly.

If you're still stuck on getting rid of it, let me know and we'll take care of it manually.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built Intel based
    CPU
    Pentium D 925 3.0 GHz socket 775, Presler @ ~ 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel DQ965MT
    Memory
    Hyundai 2 GB DDR2 @ 333 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS DirectCU II HD7790-DC2OC-2GD5 Radeon HD 7790 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Hard Drives
    1 Seagate Barracuda SATA II system/boot drive 80 GB, 2 Western Digital hdds - 1 is SATA II Caviar Black 1 TB attached to card (assorted media, page, temp), other is SATA I 420 GB (games, media, downloads)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W
    Cooling
    stock Gateway cooling, extra large fan in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Alienware/Microsoft Internet kb
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Optimum Online, fast for US
    Browser
    Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky integrated into ZoneAlarm+Antivirus
Hi,

I have installed this. Doesn't work. BSOD still occurring on first cold boot.

Ok, cool, but installing the new WinPcap might not have gotten rid of the old file, which is needed to do.

You can check at C:\Windows\System32\drivers for the WPRO_41_2001.sys file. If it is still there, it still needs to be uninstalled or removed manually. (Let me know if you need instructions on how to.)

(The new and "good" WinPcap driver is at the same location with the name of npf.sys.)

If it is gone, please provide a new crash dump reflecting the current state of the machine.

-AND-

Please provide a screenshot of CPU-Z's memory tab and a screenshot for each stick of memory you have of the SPD tab.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built Intel based
    CPU
    Pentium D 925 3.0 GHz socket 775, Presler @ ~ 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel DQ965MT
    Memory
    Hyundai 2 GB DDR2 @ 333 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS DirectCU II HD7790-DC2OC-2GD5 Radeon HD 7790 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Hard Drives
    1 Seagate Barracuda SATA II system/boot drive 80 GB, 2 Western Digital hdds - 1 is SATA II Caviar Black 1 TB attached to card (assorted media, page, temp), other is SATA I 420 GB (games, media, downloads)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W
    Cooling
    stock Gateway cooling, extra large fan in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Alienware/Microsoft Internet kb
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Optimum Online, fast for US
    Browser
    Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky integrated into ZoneAlarm+Antivirus
My questions: Why have you not provided your system specs and what is this killer gaming driver/software? I've tired to get on to the Killergaming site and no browser can find anything. So I'm very suspicious of that driver/software.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X 4 965 BE
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
    Memory
    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD XFX HD Radeon 6790D
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2l Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB w/OS
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB data storage
    PSU
    Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
    Case
    Thermaltake OverSeer RX 1 fulltower
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510
    Mouse
    Razor DeathAdder 3.5
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