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For years I have been with gmail and liked it. But today, whilst attempting to join a forum for ftp; I got the following message during registration:

Google Mail is the world's #1 forum spam enabler. Google DOES NOT assure the authenticity of its users! Please use a different mail provider.

So, my question:

Which do you consider the best, easiest to use, and store emails in, and safest? I should maybe be thinking about changing and need advice.
 
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For years I have been with gmail and liked it. But today, whilst attempting to join a forum for ftp; I got the following message during registration:

Google Mail is the world's #1 forum spam enabler. Google DOES NOT assure the authenticity of its users! Please use a different mail provider.

So, my question:

Which do you consider the best, easiest to use, and store emails in, and safest? I should maybe be thinking about changing and need advice.

That's a seriously scary claim (and potentially libelous?) for a forum to make.

I have used Gmail as my only mail service provider for many years now, I have several gmail addresses. I have used them to join many forums, and have never seen a message such as you quoted in your above post
 

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Sorry I deleted my original post as I have decided to go with hotmail after checking it out. I have seen such a message before, but a while past. As it might be on interest for discussion, I will put it back.


Apart from individually forwarding, how can I move my stored emails in gmail, to hotmail - suggestions on a $1000 bill :dinesh:
 
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I use outlook (formally hotmail). I like it because it looks nice and does more than gmail did for me. It also hooks up to Skype, Yahoo! & Facebook :)
 

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thanks dax
 

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Outlook is fine until you run into problems with their security settings, then it turns into a nightmare. :zip:
 

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Outlook is fine until you run into problems with their security settings, then it turns into a nightmare. :zip:
Those nightmares are always without an exception user's own fault. Users with a smartphone have absolutely no "nightmares" using an authenticator app:

Users without a smartphone can set up a secondary security email and phone number. Keeping these two up to date there will never be any security nightmares (access issues) even when two step verification is enabled. Of course it is up to user to keep the security information up to date.

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If you lose your password and can't get in and the email and phone number you have given as security email and number no longer exist, and if you have selected not to use an authenticator app, it's hardly a fault in Outlook to lock you out for 30 days before the security information can be reseted. It's an extremely important security measure, without it anyone could access your email. It's the user's own fault, caused by not caring enough to keep the security information up to date.

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Well you trust them if you want, I do not trust company, that does not even let me change a password and recently on this forum mentioned a case, where a user could not access his account for a month, not his fault.
 

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Well you trust them if you want, I do not trust company, that does not even let me change a password and recently on this forum mentioned a case, where a user could not access his account for a month, not his fault.
Posts like this make me really angry. The stupidity of some computer users when it comes to security never stops amazing me.

Only reason why Microsoft would not let you to change the password is that your security information is invalid or non-existent. In that case you have to wait 30 days to be able tor reset the password. As I mentioned in my previous post it is your own fault, you have only your laziness to blame (it is laziness and nothing else if you don't care keeping your security information up to date).

It is astonishing stupid to complain about the 30 day waiting period if you have lost your password and your security information is invalid. Think yourself, let's think that you had an MS Account and you can't access it because you cannot remember your password and your security information is not up to date. Would you really like it work so that you only needed to click "Can't remember my password" and then you could simply give a new password and log in? Or if someone accidentally found out your passowrd you would be OK if they changed the password without none whatsoever security checks that it really is you, locking you out from and blocking your access to your email. If it was that easy, anyone who knew your email but not your password could log in any time, click the "Can't remember my password" and access your email. That's about the stupidest I have ever heard.

The 30 day waiting period is needed in these cases. Even that is not a foolproof method but at least that's there only to protect you; Microsoft monitors the account for these 30 days, checking that no one is logging in and changing the password and / or security information, and after a 30 day period when nothing has happened let's you to reset the password.

Only way to not have these security measures would really be to let anyone who knows your email address to change the password and access your email. I repeat: is that really what you want to?

To summarize:
I do not trust company, that does not even let me change a password
User's fault, invalid or non-existing security information. This could never happen if the security information was up to date or the user had selected to use an authenticator app.

a user could not access his account for a month, not his fault
Yes it is, it is the user's own fault due invalid or non-existing security information. This could never happen if the security information was up to date or the user had selected to use an authenticator app.


Kari
 

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Kari, thanks
 

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An excellent explanation Kari, just got to learn lessons from the mistakes and go ahead in life with more presence of mind cheerfully :)

Kudos to Microsoft for the newer security measures they're taking.
 

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Unless somebody has something very serious to hide, writing down passwords in a small notebook (paper one, remember those ?) is a best bet. You can even scramble letters by some method only you know and if passwords are not recognizable words and numbers, it would take serious SW to unscramble.
 

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Some great replies, one or two not so but thanks to all of you. I have now switched to hotmail and so far it feels great, looks good, and is fast. Now all I need to know is how to tranfser my saved emails from gmail to hotmail, I suspect that this may be a bridge too far though. When I first used hotmail a couple of decades ago, it was pretty awful, it has really improved dramatically.
 

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If you go into Hotmail, and click the cog at the top right and then go to options

The option on the next page you want is 'import email accounts' select this and then chose gmail, it will then run in the background and import your mail
it will link gmail to your Hotmail, but after all the import is done you can remove the gmail connection

this runs in the background so might take a while if you have a lot of emails
 

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Now all I need to know is how to tranfser my saved emails from gmail to hotmail, I suspect that this may be a bridge too far though. When I first used hotmail a couple of decades ago, it was pretty awful, it has really improved dramatically.

OK, here's what to do next:

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/56920-outlook-com-import-email-accounts-messages.html


1. Open the Outlook.com Options (Settings icon at top right, left from your name):

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2. Select Import email accounts:

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3. Select Google, notice that if Windows already knows your Gmail account it is shown here but if not you will be asked the credentials:

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4. Click Options:

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5. Select if you want the Gmail messages and folder structure imported as such into own folders which will then be created, or if you want the messages to be imported to existing Outlook.com folders. Click Start:

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6. You will now be asked for the Gmail credentials, enter them. Click Accept to let Outlook.com to start importing:

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7. Click Open Gmail to go to Gmail Inbox to read the instructions sent to you about how to set your Gmail to forward all incoming messages to Outlook.com:

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8. Do as told in the email Microsoft sent to your Gmail to set up forwarding (not obligatory):

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9. Done. Your Outlook.com folder pane at left now shows the Gmail messages:

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When done, the next step would be to set up the account security as told in this tutorial: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/35740-microsoft-account-two-step-verification-turn-off.html

Kari
 
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I use Outlook/HotMail as a collector/garbage account, but for my main email, I use Zoho mail and POP it down to Windows Mail on Vista, and I use IMAP on SeaMonkey/Puppy Linux. Zoho is pretty good.
 

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paul and Kari - stars!!!! On my wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 

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I do not believe this. The forum I am trying to get into said gmail was no good, as per my first post, now this:

Hotmail is the world's #2 forum spam enabler. Hotmail DOES NOT assure the authenticity of its users! Please use a different mail provider.

Filezilla FTP forum can go to hell!!
 

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    Monitor(s) Displays
    iiyama 24 inch flat screen
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 3.5" SEAGATE SSHD, SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM (64MB + 8GB SSD CACHE)

    2TB Seagate SATA HDD

    500Gb SATA docked
    Case
    In Win Turbo
    Cooling
    Super Quiet 22dBA Triple Copper Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    microsoft mutlimedia keyboard
    Mouse
    logitech corded
    Internet Speed
    152mb
    Browser
    FF, IE11
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security 2015
    Other Info
    16x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW

    10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Is this your original account you use from a while back which is Hotmail.com

If so try using it with outlook.com at the end instead

I was originally on Hotmail.com (still have/use it), but when MS changed the name to outlook they also gave me an email with outlook.com, so I can use either the @Hotmail.com or @outlook.com for my email address

not sure if it will make a difference but could be worth a try
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3521
    CPU
    i5
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Browser
    IE
I do not believe this. The forum I am trying to get into said gmail was no good, as per my first post, now this:

Hotmail is the world's #2 forum spam enabler. Hotmail DOES NOT assure the authenticity of its users! Please use a different mail provider.

Filezilla FTP forum can go to hell!!
Interesting. Just to test this, I signed up at FileZilla forums. It accepted my sign up but the conformation email is yet to come, 90 minutes later:

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-1150eg
    CPU
    1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
    External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
    Cooling
    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
    Keyboard
    Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth)
    Internet Speed
    50 MB VDSL
    Browser
    Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
    Other Info
    Windows in English, additional user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish.
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